Showing posts with label Francis Zegut. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Francis Zegut. Show all posts

Friday, December 31, 2021

๐ŸŒŸ ๐๐ฅ๐š๐œ๐ž๐›๐จ ๐š๐ญ ๐๐จ๐ฉ ๐‘๐จ๐œ๐ค ๐’๐ญ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง by ๐™๐ž́๐ ๐ฎ๐ญ (part 2) ๐ŸŒŸ

๐Ÿ”ธA promise is a promise dear Soulmates ๐Ÿ˜Š. Here is the second part of the interview at RTL2 on ๐‘ญ๐’“๐’‚๐’๐’„๐’Š๐’” ๐’๐’†́๐’ˆ๐’–๐’•'s broadcast, ๐‘ท๐’๐’‘ ๐‘น๐’๐’„๐’Œ ๐‘บ๐’•๐’‚๐’•๐’Š๐’๐’. The boys keeps answering Zรฉgut and fans' questions

I hope the second part will please you as much as the first ^^ ๐Ÿ”ธ

Photo credit: Jean Baptiste Mondino, unknown, edit by Laetitia

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Bravo Placebo.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: I think it's the best acoustic session we've done.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Really ?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Yeah, yeah. There's some magic.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: I think it deserves to be on the B-side of a single.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: We already have a studio version of Plasticine. We'll see. We'll arrange for the tapes.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: You've already got the CD that we burned for you.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Just have a question before we take a break: Loretta asks if you're going to play Peeping Tom again at the next shows?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: For the moment, we're leaving Peeping Tom aside to make room for the new songs, the ballads from the new album, to have a little bit of time on stage. Maybe that song will come back. It's taking a holiday at the moment.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Ok. Another question for you: are you still planning to remix the Sneakers Pimps' Loretta Young Silks?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Well yeah. We didn't really have time. It was difficult. I'm not sure if it's already out as a single. If it's already out, we missed the opportunity. But they're still good mates of ours and it would have been great. But we thought about remixing Indochine too, but we didn't have the time either.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: So wait... Question about Indochine before taking a break. Everybody wonders, as you're pretty good friends with Nicolas, if there would be a common title: Placebo/Indochine? Is that possible?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: I don't know. Maybe we'll do a version of Bonnie and Clyde together.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Ok that would be a good idea. A Gainsbourg's song. A Bonny and Clyde cover, Placebo/Indochine, that would be good.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : But there is no project to do that at the moment but you never know, we get along very well.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Ok, a short break and we'll be back (...)

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: I have a question on the chat: as you speak French well, and you have such a charming accent at the same time, could you participate in an album of covers of Gainsbourg or Jacques Brel songs? Would that be in the realm of possibility?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: It could be interesting, but for me it's hard to write in French because I don't read enough, I don't speak enough. But my accent is not bad so maybe it could be done. There might be a compilation of English versions of Gainsbourg songs coming out with Les Inrocks soon.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: On which you are participating in a track.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Yeah, we're working on a track at the moment.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Which one?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: We're working on Melody Nelson at the moment.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Melody Nelson.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Yeah. Something very sacred I think.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Yeah, yeah it's sacred actually.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: But writing, I find it difficult but you never know. I'd like to do that. During the break we were talking about Nina Simone who did a version of Brel's Ne Me Quitte Pas which is incredible with a very very heavy accent but it's really very charming.

Photo credit: Helena Berg

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Note Bowie tried his hand at Amsterdam with an accent...
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Yeah he did Heros in German too.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Yeah and Peter Gabriel sang in German too, you know. Since we're talking about influence, you have reference points where you talk about Gainsbourg, Jacques Brel, where you talked about Janis Joplin earlier, what are your reference points? Can we talk about the Doors, the Velvet Underground, The Cure? Listening to your last album, two/three sounds that sound very Cure on Disintegration.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: The Cure and The Smiths were the soundtrack to every afternoon when it rained in Luxembourg. The rainy afternoons of my teenage years so it's still there, a little bit in our music. There's Sonic Youth too, PJ Harvey, The Pixies, Jane's addiction.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: And you cover Where is my mind by the Pixies on stage?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Yeah, we've covered it for a few shows.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Ok, and you're gonna do it again?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : We don't know, we don't know, we don't really like to do the same covers for people because they "expect" so...

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Ok. What about Steve for example, what are his influences?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: What influences baby, Stevie ?
๐Ÿ’ฌSteve: Pretty much the same as Brian actually. Public Ennemy, Sly & the Family Stone. Earth Wind and Fire.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Tom Waits.
๐Ÿ’ฌSteve: Nick Cave, Captain Beefheart.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: And Stefan?
๐Ÿ’ฌStefan: When I was a kid, for me it was ABBA, all the time, disco too, like Boney M.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Yes, so you covered Boney M, it just came out, so where did the idea come from? Is it you Stefan?
๐Ÿ’ฌStefan: It came from the three of us, because we all three grew up in the 80s. And in the band, Steve is the Daddy Cool because he has a little girl. But it's a joke.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: But it worked, it's a bonus track on one of the singles that you guys release.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : But it will never be released as a single...

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜ : Yeah, believe me I have it. It's coming out everywhere, and believe me, people who listen and who do a bit of radio have already fallen for this track anyway (...)

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: A question Loriane.

๐—Ÿ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฒ: Yes, it's about the Desert Sessions by Queen Of The Stone Age. There's a rumour that you might be involved?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: We might be involved. The offer is still on the table but we haven't had a chance to go back to the States to do it yet. If we're all together in the States, Queen, Josh and us, it could happen. It's an open invitation. I know he recently worked with Polly Harvey on the sessions. At the moment they've taken a bit of a break. We're still friends so it could happen.

๐—Ÿ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฒ: Would you be interested?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Sure. What's interesting is that not everyone who participates has to play their instrument of choice.

Photo credit: Jรฉrรดme Brรฉzillon

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: I have a question for the band, which can be taken separately for each of you. When you're in the studio, away from home or when you're touring, do you like computers in general? Do you have a laptop etc?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: How techno crazy are we ? Do you take your computer with you ?
๐Ÿ’ฌSteve: I am a technophobe completely. Useless.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Steve is a technophobe. Stef is the most internet savvy of the three of us.
๐Ÿ’ฌStefan: That's true. But it's not very difficult.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: You Brian ?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: I had a computer and it stayed in the box for two years. I just got it out and now I have broadband. I'm just starting to use it. There's a lot of porn...

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: The first time you go on the internet is for your hobbies. Thank you, you're burnt out.
Another song we like on Sleeping With Ghosts is English Summer Rain.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Cool.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Can you explain how it came about?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: First time we're going to hear this on the radio. We took a break. We bought some digital and identical studio equipment and started working on it. This is the second song I started working on during that eight month break between touring and studio. I've been listening to a lot of Hip Hop, Dr Dre and DJ Shadow. The demo was created in a DJ Shadow atmosphere.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: And it turned out to be a bit 'Cure' I repeat.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : Do you hear some Cure in English Summer Rain?

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Yes, a little bit. On Fascination Street by Disintegration, the bass that... Well, all right (...)

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Questions on the internet: What do you think of Nirvana?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Nirvana? We love it of course, it's a legendary and influential band, incredible. Everybody should love Nirvana.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Yeah, it's a landmark, in music anyway. There's talk of a Bauhaus influence too somewhere, is that...
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Bauhaus? Well, I don't have a Bauhaus record, I never had one. I never really listened to Bauhaus or Peter Murphy so it's possible but it's probably an accident.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Right.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: But everyone knows the Ziggy Stardust cover and Bela Lugosi's Dead and stuff like that but I never had any of their records at home.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Right. A purely aesthetic question, Brian: "Every album you have your hair shortened, is that a gamble?"
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: No not really but I think it's important to stay one haircut ahead of your fans.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Yeah, okay. So does that mean that when your fans come to see you at your gigs: short hair?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Well you can always cut your hair but you can't force it to grow, that's the problem. I had short hair on holiday and then I ended up making an album and what can you do but wear a wig.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Yeah no it's fine you look good.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : Thanks.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Don't wear a wig (...)

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: So why does it end so abruptly? A bit like I Want You (She's So Heavy) by the Beatles.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: That was Jim Abbiss' idea. I have a pretty crude metaphor, but I'm not going to say it on the radio.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Yes, please do, it's after 11pm.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Well it's when you pull your finger out of your ass, it goes a little bit like this.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: That was a nice metaphor. There's another metaphor in French that says: "I'm going to Kรคrcher your cave".
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : I didn't know that one...

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Ok. And the genesis of that track we just heard from the album? (Protect Me From What I Want)
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: It was written at the very end of the Black Market Music session and it was more of an "exorcism" song. Songs that come out, that you almost throw up, without really having to do much work intellectually and writing on them. It's almost stream of consciousness. When you have something inside you that is so unbearable that you have to get it out. We were making music so it was natural for me to get those emotions out in that way. It was a kind of exorcism, a kind of therapy I guess.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: When you start a recording session, well an introduction that will maybe last... How long did it take to record the album?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: It took four months over a six month period. Black Market Music took nine months. This time we wanted to do it in a quicker way, just had to make decisions early on that's all.

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๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Are there days when we don't do much, even when the studio is booked? Are there times when we play covers, covers a bit to get into the...
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: It's more if there's a Queens of The Stone Age gig the day before. We don't do much the day after. It happened while we were doing the... We went to see the Queens play with Dave Grohl on drums. It was maybe the 20th time we saw them play but it was really something amazing.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: I have a few more questions coming up: "What do you think of U2?"
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: We always loved U2 and still do. When we toured with U2 it was like being part of the biggest circus in the world. It was a great experience.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: What about the relationship you had with them even though you were the opening act?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Yeah they are very very generous, they are very friendly. We even went on their private jet and stuff, it was nice.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: There's no problem of "I'll turn the sound down for you at the beginning, I'll mess up your sound a little bit"?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : I think all the opening acts are always not so loud because the ears of the U2 fans have come...

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: To listen to U2.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Yeah they came for that. But they've been very, very nice.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: A question about the venues: "Do you like the Olympia as a venue?"
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: We love it. I came out of the Olympia last week crying. It was a very emotional thing for me. It's a fantastic thing.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Another question a bit symbolic: "What do you think of the French public? I know that the French public is always very warm. There was a shot today on the Champs at Virgin, I heard it was quite friendly. How do you perceive the French public?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: It's an enormously generous audience, they've accepted us with open arms from the first day of Placebo. Placebo and the French public share a very, very continental romanticism and it's also because we grew up with the French culture that there is a bond.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: So for those who have listened to you and discovered you tonight and those who love you and have known you for a long time, what would you have to say to them? If you had a word to say to them?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : We rock!

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: So before we leave, Brian and Stef, you chose a record. This is Steve's choice.
๐Ÿ’ฌSteve: The Kills.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: The Kills, it's a new band but we've known Jami, Hotel, that's his name in this band, for a long time. I've known him for 13 years, we went to university together. We toured a lot with his old bands. He really found an artistic partner in Alisson and he has something very incredible. We went to see them in Cologne last week and it was a bit like watching the Velvet Underground or something. It was really something so special and so unique that now we're all about the Kills and he's a very, very good friend of ours. It makes us very, very happy that he makes music like that.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Good music. There's a band that we've been playing for a few days in Pop Rock Station that will be your opening act I think on the UK tour. It is ...
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: The Eighties Matchbox B-Line Disaster.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Yeah. It's got the nostalgia of rockabilly and at the same time the potency of punk.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : That's true, yes.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: This is for the UK tour. Is there a band planned for the French tour?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: I think we're playing with Operator who played with us at the Olympia. Yeah it's almost definite, almost.

Photo credit: Oliver Bernardt

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: We'll listen to The Kills and anyway thanks for coming all the way here. It was a real pleasure to have you here. We were supposed to finish at 11pm, it's half an hour later. We had a great time together. I hope everyone shared that at home.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Thank you very much, we really enjoyed it and thank you for the session it was really...

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Well done for the album and for the session on our side too it was really... Hooray for the music.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : Yeah. Thank you very much.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Thank you for stopping by.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Thanks Francis.


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Thursday, December 30, 2021

๐ŸŒŸ ๐๐ฅ๐š๐œ๐ž๐›๐จ ๐š๐ญ ๐๐จ๐ฉ ๐‘๐จ๐œ๐ค ๐’๐ญ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง by ๐™๐ž́๐ ๐ฎ๐ญ (part 1) ๐ŸŒŸ

"๐‘ป๐’‰๐’‚๐’•'๐’” ๐’˜๐’‰๐’š ๐’˜๐’† ๐’…๐’ ๐’‚๐’„๐’๐’–๐’”๐’•๐’Š๐’„ ๐’—๐’†๐’“๐’”๐’Š๐’๐’๐’”, ๐’๐’๐’• ๐’“๐’†๐’‚๐’๐’๐’š ๐’˜๐’Š๐’•๐’‰ ๐’‚๐’ ๐’‚๐’„๐’๐’–๐’”๐’•๐’Š๐’„ ๐’ˆ๐’–๐’Š๐’•๐’‚๐’“ ๐’ƒ๐’–๐’• ๐’“๐’‚๐’•๐’‰๐’†๐’“ ๐’‚ ๐’„๐’‚๐’ƒ๐’‚๐’“๐’†๐’• ๐’—๐’†๐’“๐’”๐’Š๐’๐’. ๐‘บ๐’๐’Ž๐’†๐’•๐’Š๐’Ž๐’†๐’” ๐’˜๐’† ๐’Š๐’Ž๐’‚๐’ˆ๐’Š๐’๐’† ๐’๐’–๐’“๐’”๐’†๐’๐’—๐’†๐’” ๐’Š๐’ ๐’‚ ๐’Ž๐’๐’—๐’Š๐’†." (๐˜‰๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜”๐˜ฐ๐˜ญ๐˜ฌ๐˜ฐ)


๐Ÿ”ธ Dear all , for the last week of the year, I'd like to share with you an interview, with the best French radio presenter (this is quite subjective of me I must admit ๐Ÿ˜„ ), mister ๐‘ญ๐’“๐’‚๐’๐’„๐’Š๐’” ๐’๐’†́๐’ˆ๐’–๐’• ! On the March 28, 2003, ๐‘ท๐’๐’‚๐’„๐’†๐’ƒ๐’ made an acoustic concert broadcasted on RTL 2, hosted by the band's dear friend, Francis Zรฉgut, on his program ๐‘ƒ๐‘œ๐‘ ๐‘…๐‘œ๐‘๐‘˜ ๐‘†๐‘ก๐‘Ž๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘œ๐‘›. It was the first time Zรฉgut interviewed the band.

On that very day, ๐‘ท๐’๐’‚๐’„๐’†๐’ƒ๐’ played a special set where they first interpreted ๐‘‡โ„Ž๐‘–๐‘  ๐‘ƒ๐‘–๐‘๐‘ก๐‘ข๐‘Ÿ๐‘’ and ๐‘ƒ๐‘™๐‘Ž๐‘ ๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘๐‘–๐‘›๐‘’ in acoustic version. On the interview, ๐‘ฉ๐’“๐’Š๐’‚๐’, ๐‘บ๐’•๐’†๐’‡๐’‚๐’ ๐’‚๐’๐’… ๐‘บ๐’•๐’†๐’—๐’† explained the recording process of ๐‘บ๐’๐’†๐’†๐’‘๐’Š๐’๐’ˆ ๐‘พ๐’Š๐’•๐’‰ ๐‘ฎ๐’‰๐’๐’”๐’•๐’”, the way ๐ฝ๐‘–๐‘š ๐ด๐‘๐‘ฆ๐‘ ๐‘  did approach the songs and how the band and him managed to create a symbiosis so that the songs reached a new dimension. Why and how they've chosen this specific title for the album. And you can enjoy ๐‘บ๐’•๐’†๐’‡๐’‚๐’ speaking French as well ! :D

๐ด๐‘› ๐‘–๐‘›๐‘ก๐‘’๐‘Ÿ๐‘ฃ๐‘–๐‘’๐‘ค ๐‘๐‘œ๐‘™๐‘œ๐‘ข๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘‘ ๐‘ค๐‘–๐‘กโ„Ž โ„Ž๐‘ข๐‘š๐‘œ๐‘ข๐‘Ÿ, ๐‘ ๐‘’๐‘Ÿ๐‘–๐‘œ๐‘ข๐‘ ๐‘›๐‘’๐‘ ๐‘  ๐‘๐‘ข๐‘ก ๐‘Ž๐‘๐‘œ๐‘ฃ๐‘’ ๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘™ ๐‘คโ„Ž๐‘’๐‘Ÿ๐‘’ ๐‘ฆ๐‘œ๐‘ข ๐‘๐‘Ž๐‘› ๐‘“๐‘’๐‘’๐‘™ ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’ ๐‘๐‘œ๐‘š๐‘๐‘™๐‘–๐‘๐‘–๐‘ก๐‘ฆ ๐‘๐‘’๐‘ก๐‘ค๐‘’๐‘’๐‘› ๐น๐‘Ÿ๐‘Ž๐‘›๐‘๐‘–๐‘  ๐‘๐‘’́๐‘”๐‘ข๐‘ก ๐‘Ž๐‘›๐‘‘ ๐‘ƒ๐‘™๐‘Ž๐‘๐‘’๐‘๐‘œ. ๐ฟ๐‘œ๐‘œ๐‘˜ ๐‘Ž๐‘ก ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘–๐‘  ๐‘—๐‘œ๐‘ฆ๐‘“๐‘ข๐‘™ ๐‘๐‘–๐‘๐‘ก๐‘ข๐‘Ÿ๐‘’ ! :D ๐Ÿ”ธ

Photo credit: RTL2

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Good evening. Placebo, what do you think of the credits?
๐Ÿ’ฌ Brian : It's great, Led Zeppelin and Radiohead together.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Yeah, it was mixed and produced by the producers here.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : You could do a bootleg with it.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: You think so?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Why not! It was all the rage last year.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Bootlegs?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Yeah. Take two songs and put them together.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Yeah, make versus a little bit... First question before talking about the album, do you have a lot of bootlegs of your own?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Yeah. There's a lot of bootlegs that you can buy in markets, things like that, in second hand shops. There's nothing you can do about it. But when you see them, you take them to listen to the quality.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Yeah.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : But we don't pay them.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Okay. Thanks for being here Stefan. Push the red button.
๐Ÿ’ฌStefan: Hi. Good evening.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Hi Stefan, and then Steve too.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: He always pushes the off button.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: We are together for an hour. You've brought a couple of records with you, one of which we played not too long ago and which was your opening act in England. We're mainly here to talk about Sleeping With Ghosts, which is the new Placebo album. You were in France not too long ago but you'll be back, and we'll talk about that a little later. Off air, this afternoon and after searching the net, because we're always digging around a bit before welcoming people to find out a bit more. This sentence, "Sleeping With Ghosts", caught my attention. So I thought maybe if I typed it into a search engine, it would take me somewhere. In fact I wasn't too far from where it eventually led me. You did a heist on that phrase there.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Yeah, it was a line from a war photography book by an Englishman called Donald McCollin, and I saw it at someone's house.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: In the library of a friend.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: In his library. And the sentence stayed with me for years and years and years and I thought maybe one of these four, it's so beautiful that I might steal it.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Okay, so you stole it. Not only the title but you made a song.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: We wrote the song first but we didn't know the album was going to be called Sleeping with ghosts. We're always looking for a title that's not the title of a song because it puts a bit of pressure on not just one song but twelve, on the whole album. We couldn't find anything that was as good as Sleeping with ghosts so we stuck with it. But still, the song came first.

Photo credit: Jean Baptiqte Mondino

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Ok. It's a beautiful track and it's a really beautiful song at the same time because there's a little bit of electro that comes into this album that at the same time mixes modernity with a melancholy. It's a really beautiful song...
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: I thought it was a title that worked for war photography but the title was so deep that it could be applied to almost anything. It was quite ambiguous but something very moving, that's why it stuck with me.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Ok. Let's play The bitter end which is the first single from the album (...)

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Wow, as they say, it kicks ass and with the sound treatment, it does it well anyway. There are a lot of fans who have known you for a long, long time and then there are those who are listening tonight and who have been discovering Placebo for a while with the new single, but are discovering the band. So why do you speak French so well in the first place Brian?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: My grandfather was French, the name Molko is French too, but me and Stefan grew up in Luxembourg. You learned German and I grew up with French, with French TV of course and comics and all that.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Alright, literature, comics and so on. The second question to find out a little bit more about you, I'm addressing both Stefan and Steve, at what point do you feel you become a musician and are born to do this in the end?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: It was when he was 11 years old, his brother wouldn't lend him his guitar.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Ok. But at no point did he think he was going to do another job? Carpenter, mechanic, etc?
๐Ÿ’ฌSteve : No.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Ok so he's a born musician right.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : He must have done a lot of jobs.

Photo credit:  James Sharrock

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Yes, small jobs like we all do. What about Stefan?
๐Ÿ’ฌStefan: When I was 12, I wrote a song, I took it with me to school and played it to my friends and they said it was a really good song so that's how I found I could write songs.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: That was when you were 2 years old?
๐Ÿ’ฌStefan : 12 years old.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Ok, and did you know you were going to play in a rock band or did you start with classical studies, piano, things like that?
๐Ÿ’ฌStefan: No, I started with drums and then with bass and then it was the keyboard. I didn't know, I just wanted to make music.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Ok, just to make music. It's noticeable in the band anyway, you're all multi-instrumentalists in the end, that everyone can move from one instrument to another.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: It's always been like that, we've always tried to make the sound of five people with three. But we never limited ourselves to one specific role because we thought it was quite boring and because we started out that way, quite arrogant so we thought why limit ourselves to one instrument. I want to play this, this, this. And we've continued to have this philosophy on all the albums we've done. We now have five people on stage but it's still the creative triangle in the studio that we respect and it gives us a lot of freedom because we haven't defined a specific role, we can play what we want to play. It gives us a big sense of freedom, we can experiment with whatever we want.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Do you learn to play music in a self-taught way, that is to say you sit in front of a keyboard, a guitar and try things out or do you take lessons?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Me and Steve. I learned the guitar and I'm still learning to play the piano. Steve, he's learnt the drums. We have a pretty instinctive approach. Stefan has learned music in several schools. He has a more technical approach and there is a balance I think with that.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: We're going to listen to Sleeping With Ghosts which is one of my favourite tracks on the album. If you have any questions for Placebo (...)

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Was it the first time you heard it on the radio Brian?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : Yeah, I'm surprised.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Are you surprised at yourself?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Yes, I'm a little bit shocked. It was very very beautiful.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: By the composition ? The production?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: The production, yes. It comes out really well.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: After the break, we'll talk about The Bitter End, where it came about, how it came about. And then we'll talk about your first choice.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : Ok. (...)

Photo credit:  James Sharrock

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: So let's talk about music and only music. We played The Bitter End. There was a long break between you guys, between the two albums, the end of the tour, the end of the promo, a bit of a recharge, etc. What did you do separately during this break? Did you travel ? Did any of you go fishing?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: For me, I found my first real home. I bought it. I came back down to earth in a very domestic way, I became the guy who needed to buy furniture, dishes and cutlery, stuff like that so it was...

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: And where is this house?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: In London. It's a flat. I found my first... "my Home".

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: When you walk in, you think: "this is where I'm going to put my bags".
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : Yeah, so I dealt with that.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Okay. Steve, what did you do on that break?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: He got together with his family, spent time with his little girl, told her stories from the tour.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Ok. People don't speak the same language as us, etc. What about Stefan?
๐Ÿ’ฌStefan: The same for me. Seeing family and friends again. Moving around Spain a bit and writing some music, things like that. Sleep a lot.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Yeah, it's good because on tour you don't sleep much.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : No not much. Between the airports and the tour buses... Everything is moving while you're sleeping.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: You've done a lot of things besides that, you've done a bit of mixing in clubs as well.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : Yeah I've played the DJ...

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: A collaboration with Trash Palace too.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Yeah. I did two songs for the Trash Palace album. But that wasn't really working. It was just stuffs I did with some friends. It took me an hour to do it. I wouldn't have done it if it was work. It was fun.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Would you allow yourselves to do solo projects, like releasing a Brian Molko album, a Steve album, a Stefan album?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: No, we feel really strong together as a strong entity, as a rock entity. But we don't mind, we don't have a problem when one of us goes to work with a mate because we have a lot of trust in each other. So it's not really a problem.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: A real unity between the three of us. Even if there is indeed an extra musician, a bass player who was there this afternoon, but this is really the unity. Let's talk about The Bitter End which is the first single. How was it born? Where was it born? Was it born on the edge of a table? How was it born?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: The Bitter End was written and recorded in two days at the very end of the Sleeping with ghosts session, at the end of the mix. We spent a lot of time on it, we were very precious with the mix and all that. We were using a lot of technology. We really wanted to do something very rootsy, something a bit punk, so we were jamming in the studio, while mixing. And then The Bitter End came about in a very spontaneous way.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Okay. It was born again as a three-piece.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : Three of us, yes.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Okay. And Sleeping With Ghosts, is that another writing?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Yeah, at least, there were three different versions of Sleeping With Ghosts. We started with a little bit more of a Dj Shadow version, a little bit more hip hop and then we did a more acoustic version and then Jim did something completely... He tore it up, like he did with a lot of our stuff on this album, and he put it back in a very, very surprising way for us. We rolled with it, we did that on several tracks on this album. He kept surprising us with ideas that we never thought of. That's what we were excited about during the session.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: You came up with ideas during the recording and then during the production and recording, something else happened, your songs exploded with the producer.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Yeah, there were even songs that on the album were waltzes, that completely changed, that are not anymore. Yeah, they used to be 3/4 songs, now they're 4/4, 5/4 songs. It's funny.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Will these songs or demos that were practically done be bonus singles?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Yeah, we like to do that, we like to do covers, different versions of all our songs. Because we think if you can do that with a song, then it's a really good song. You can play it any way you want like With or without you by U2. You can go into a hotel, and a musician plays it on the piano. The search for a song like that is also very important because it's a universal song a little bit. That's why we do acoustic versions, not really with an acoustic guitar but rather a cabaret version. Sometimes we imagine ourselves in a movie.

Photo credit:  James Sharrock

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: But you were in the cabaret earlier.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : Exactly.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: So your choice... Everyone brought a CD, so there will be Stefan's and Steve's choice a little bit later. Tu as choisi Janis Joplin.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Of course. One of my heroines, a huge influence, the music of my childhood. Yeah, she's a super strong character that inspires me, who broke a lot of taboos and was stronger than a guy, in a 60's guy world.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Yeah, she was the first great female rock singer, with a voice.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : A beautiful voice yeah.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: A fatal fate but it still made a lot of things happen.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: But I've always been attracted to people like Billie Holiday or Janis Joplin or PJ Harvey or even Bjรถrk who have completely unique voices and I don't think there's anyone who... There are people who try to sound like her...

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Yeah, no it won't happen. She had a gift, it fell on her and it's hard to reproduce. (...)

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: It was Janice Joplin, a musical figure... Placebo, Sleeping With Ghosts, it's the new album. This afternoon Steve, Stefan and you, Brian, came to record an acoustic session. So you played three songs: This Picture, Plasticine and Special K. Two of them are on the new album. How did This picture and Plasticine come about?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: This Picture started out in a form quite similar to what you're going to hear. We wrote it on tour and it was a very REM song, an atmospheric piano thing, quite abstract. Then in the studio, we covered it in a punk way but the original version was...

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: It was close to this one.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: That's it. Plasticine, Stef came into the studio with the music as it is on the album, almost exactly as it is and then we did a little bit of a cabaret version for you today.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Everyone in the band brought their idea, their music, their text eventually... Steve was the same?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : Steve started writing songs on guitar.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: So far it's got a sound we know but there's a little bit of electro in it. Can we say that Placebo's sound is heading towards something like Gorillaz for example? Blur?
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: I think we'll always have to be an organic rock band in some way or another.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: But with the sound, ideas and technology of nowadays.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Yeah I think that's important, you can't be an artistic ostrich and stick your head in the sand and say that technology doesn't exist. And to make a modern sound, you have to use the tools of today. But when we go on stage, we are interested in making rock music.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Yes, we can feel it when you are on stage.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian : But we listen to a lot of hip hop and a lot of electro but I don't think in the future we're going to be Kraftwerk or anything like that because we're quite obsessed with keeping it very human.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: Bass, guitar and drums for a start.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Initially yeah. But it's not completely super necessary on every song but it's what we do best too. You can't turn your back on who you are.

๐—ญ๐—ฒ́๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜: It's true that Placebo is great on stage. We're going to listen to your afternoon's set, This Picture, Plasticine and Special K. Thanks a lot for this, because there is the sound, the interpretation in one take, very professional. And your voice too. You were talking about Janis Joplin but you also have a gift that fell to you.
๐Ÿ’ฌBrian: Thank you.


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⭐๐‘ณ๐’†๐’•'๐’” ๐’†๐’๐’‹๐’๐’š ๐’•๐’‰๐’† ๐’‚๐’Ž๐’‚๐’›๐’Š๐’๐’ˆ ๐’‘๐’†๐’“๐’‡๐’๐’“๐’Ž๐’‚๐’๐’„๐’† ๐’๐’‡ ๐‘ป๐’‰๐’Š๐’” ๐‘ท๐’Š๐’„๐’•๐’–๐’“๐’† ๐’‚๐’„๐’๐’–๐’”๐’•๐’Š๐’„ ๐’‚๐’• ๐‘น๐‘ป๐‘ณ2
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