⭐🌟 𝐈𝐍𝐓𝐄𝐑𝐕𝐈𝐄𝐖 𝐖𝐈𝐓𝐇 𝐒𝐓𝐄𝐅𝐀𝐍 - 𝟏𝟗𝟗𝟗 🌟⭐

" 𝙄 𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙠 𝙞𝙩 𝙞𝙨 𝙛𝙪𝙣𝙣𝙮 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙣 𝙖 𝙗𝙖𝙣𝙙’𝙨 𝙥𝙧𝙚𝙨𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙖𝙧𝙩𝙨 𝙜𝙚𝙩𝙩𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙥𝙧𝙚𝙨𝙨. 𝙄𝙩’𝙨 𝙟𝙪𝙨𝙩 𝙨𝙞𝙡𝙡𝙮. 𝙋𝙚𝙤𝙥𝙡𝙚 𝙛𝙞𝙨𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙩𝙧𝙮𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙩𝙤 𝙛𝙞𝙣𝙙 𝙨𝙝𝙞𝙩 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙜𝙚𝙩 𝙢𝙤𝙧𝙚 𝙨𝙝𝙞𝙩 𝙤𝙣 𝙮𝙤𝙪. - 𝚂𝚝𝚎𝚏𝚊𝚗 𝙾𝚕𝚜𝚍𝚊𝚕


🔶 𝐓𝐨𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐝𝐞𝐚𝐫 𝐟𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐬, 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐜𝐮𝐬 𝐢𝐬 𝐨𝐧 𝐒𝐭𝐞𝐟𝐚𝐧 !

🔶 The day after David Bowie's interview with Placebo, the 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗵𝗼𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗯𝘆 𝗗𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗱 𝗕𝗼𝘄𝗶𝗲, on March 29th 1999, Stefan was interviewed by 𝗛𝗶𝗽 𝗢𝗻𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗲. It is obvious that the interviewer felt very uncomfortable because coming after David Bowie put a lot of pressure on him. It's understandable after all ? 😄

🔶 It is clear that the subject 'Bowie' was discussed, as well as touring, America, media, some songs, all tinged with the humour that Stefan knows so well. 💖 💝

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🔹 𝐴𝑓𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ𝑙𝑦 𝑎𝑛 ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑤𝑎𝑡𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑃𝑙𝑎𝑐𝑒𝑏𝑜 𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝐷𝑎𝑣𝑖𝑑 𝐵𝑜𝑤𝑖𝑒, 𝐼 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑧𝑒𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝐼 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑏𝑒 𝑑𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑙𝑙𝑜𝑤𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑓𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑜𝑜𝑛. 𝐴 𝑓𝑜𝑙𝑙𝑜𝑤 𝑢𝑝 𝑡𝑜 𝐵𝑜𝑤𝑖𝑒 ? 𝑇𝑎𝑙𝑘 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑢𝑟𝑒 !

𝑊ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑐𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑖𝑛, 𝐼 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑢𝑛𝑠𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑤ℎ𝑜𝑚 𝐼 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑏𝑒 𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑡𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔. 𝑆𝑜𝑜𝑛 𝐼 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑓𝑖𝑛𝑑 𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑖𝑡 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑏𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑜𝑛𝑒𝑠𝑡 𝑆𝑡𝑒𝑓𝑎𝑛 𝑂𝑙𝑠𝑑𝑎𝑙.

𝐹𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑟𝑡 𝑖𝑡 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑖𝑚𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑏𝑙𝑒 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑘 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑙𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑏 𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝐷𝑎𝑣𝑖𝑑 𝐵𝑜𝑤𝑖𝑒, 𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝑆𝑡𝑒𝑓𝑎𝑛 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑛 ℎ𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑦 𝑡𝑜 𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑘 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑠 𝐵𝑜𝑤𝑖𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑠 𝑃𝑙𝑎𝑐𝑒𝑏𝑜.

🔹 𝑰 𝒅𝒐𝒏’𝒕 𝒌𝒏𝒐𝒘 𝒉𝒐𝒘 𝑰 𝒄𝒂𝒏 𝒇𝒐𝒍𝒍𝒐𝒘 𝒖𝒑 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒊𝒏𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒗𝒊𝒆𝒘 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒉𝒂𝒅 𝒍𝒂𝒔𝒕 𝒏𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝑫𝒂𝒗𝒊𝒅 𝑩𝒐𝒘𝒊𝒆. 𝑰’𝒎 𝒇𝒆𝒆𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒂 𝒃𝒊𝒕 𝒊𝒏𝒂𝒅𝒆𝒒𝒖𝒂𝒕𝒆.
💬 (𝘭𝘢𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘴) Did you check out the web thing ?

🔹 𝒀𝒆𝒂𝒉.
💬 It was good, wasn’t it ?

🔹 𝒀𝒆𝒂𝒉. 𝑨𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒘𝒉𝒐𝒍𝒆 𝒕𝒊𝒎𝒆 𝑰 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒘𝒂𝒕𝒄𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒊𝒕, 𝑰 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒌𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒐 𝒎𝒚𝒔𝒆𝒍𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒎𝒂𝒚𝒃𝒆 𝑰 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅𝒏’𝒕 𝒃𝒆 𝒘𝒂𝒕𝒄𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒊𝒕 𝒃𝒆𝒄𝒂𝒖𝒔𝒆 𝑰 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒕𝒐 𝒊𝒏𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒗𝒊𝒆𝒘 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒔𝒆 𝒈𝒖𝒚𝒔 𝒕𝒐𝒎𝒐𝒓𝒓𝒐𝒘.
💬 Well, we played a show last night, in Roseland last night, and Bowie came up and joined us on stage. We did a couple tunes together and it was brilliant. It was a really good show anyway and then he came up and started jamming out with us. It was superb. Really good fun.

🔹 𝑮𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒕. 𝑺𝒐 𝒏𝒐𝒘 𝑰’𝒎 𝒔𝒐𝒓𝒕 𝒐𝒇 𝒘𝒐𝒏𝒅𝒆𝒓𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒘𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝑰 𝒄𝒂𝒏 𝒑𝒐𝒔𝒔𝒊𝒃𝒍𝒚 𝒅𝒐 𝒐𝒓 𝒂𝒔𝒌 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒘𝒂𝒔𝒏’𝒕 𝒕𝒂𝒌𝒆𝒏 𝒄𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝒍𝒂𝒔𝒕 𝒏𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝑫𝒂𝒗𝒊𝒅.
💬 He’s a pretty good interview actually, isn’t he ?

🔹 𝒀𝒆𝒂𝒉. 𝑰𝒕 𝒍𝒂𝒔𝒕𝒆𝒅 𝒂𝒍𝒎𝒐𝒔𝒕 𝒂𝒏 𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒓, 𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕 ?
💬 Right. It was chill though, good fun.

🔹 𝑯𝒆 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒓𝒆𝒎𝒊𝒏𝒊𝒔𝒄𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒂𝒃𝒐𝒖𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒐𝒍𝒅 𝒅𝒂𝒚𝒔.
💬 Exactly. Every time we see him he is sort of coming out with like one-liners and stuff and stuff to do with people that are dead and gone. It’s amazing. It’s really hard to comprehend sometimes the amount of stuff he has done. He is throwing dates at you like from the late ’60’s and like I can’t even remember last week ! (𝘸𝘦 𝘣𝘰𝘵𝘩 𝘭𝘢𝘶𝘨𝘩)

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🔹 𝑾𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒔𝒐𝒏𝒈𝒔 𝒅𝒊𝒅 𝑫𝒂𝒗𝒊𝒅 𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒎 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒍𝒂𝒔𝒕 𝒏𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕 ?
💬 “Without You I’m Nothing” and “20th Century Boy”.

🔹 𝑨𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒂𝒏𝒚 𝒑𝒍𝒂𝒏𝒔 𝒕𝒐 𝒘𝒐𝒓𝒌 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒉𝒊𝒎 𝒐𝒏 𝒂𝒏 𝒂𝒍𝒃𝒖𝒎 𝒐𝒓 𝒔𝒐𝒎𝒆𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒆𝒍𝒔𝒆 𝒊𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒇𝒖𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒆 ?
💬 Maybe. There are things in the old magic bag. We’ll have to wait

🔹 𝑯𝒐𝒘 𝒅𝒊𝒅 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒈𝒖𝒚𝒔 𝒂𝒍𝒍 𝒉𝒐𝒐𝒌 𝒖𝒑 ?
💬 It was 1996, I wasn’t in the band at the time, but Morrissey was touring with David Bowie, and then Morrissey went on a walkabout and just disappeared. Then Bowie discovered a Placebo demo even before the first album, Virgin just signed them, and he said, ‘Come on tour with us.’ And they went on tour and it has been a friendship since then really.

🔹 𝑰 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒒𝒖𝒊𝒕𝒆 𝒋𝒆𝒂𝒍𝒐𝒖𝒔 𝒐𝒇 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒈𝒖𝒚𝒔 𝒉𝒂𝒏𝒈𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒐𝒖𝒕 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒉𝒊𝒎 𝒍𝒊𝒌𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕, 𝒆𝒔𝒑𝒆𝒄𝒊𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚 𝒘𝒉𝒆𝒏 𝒉𝒆 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒓𝒆𝒎𝒊𝒏𝒊𝒔𝒄𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒂𝒃𝒐𝒖𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒑𝒂𝒔𝒕. 𝑳𝒊𝒌𝒆 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑩𝒓𝒊𝒂𝒏 𝑬𝒏𝒐 𝒔𝒕𝒐𝒓𝒚.
💬 Exactly. I mean, he was coming out with that Brian Eno stuff about Berlin. He was talking about circumference and ‘I got the change out of my pocket and I can go this far and see what happens.’ It’s like fucking mental. (𝘭𝘢𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘴)
He is very cool. He’s very approachable. He’ll give you a load of time. He’s very good.

🔹 𝑰 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒌 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒏𝒆𝒆𝒅 𝒅𝒂𝒚𝒔 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒅𝒂𝒚𝒔 𝒕𝒐 𝒅𝒐 𝒂 𝒔𝒕𝒐𝒓𝒚 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒉𝒊𝒎. 𝑨𝒏𝒚𝒉𝒐𝒘 𝒊𝒕 𝒎𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕 𝒃𝒆 𝒑𝒓𝒐𝒑𝒆𝒓 𝒊𝒇 𝑰 𝒂𝒄𝒕𝒖𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚 𝒂𝒔𝒌 𝒔𝒐𝒎𝒆 𝑷𝒍𝒂𝒄𝒆𝒃𝒐 𝒒𝒖𝒆𝒔𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏𝒔.
💬 Perhaps. (𝘭𝘢𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘴)

🔹 𝑫𝒐 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒇𝒆𝒆𝒍 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒚𝒐𝒖’𝒗𝒆 𝒇𝒐𝒖𝒏𝒅 𝒎𝒐𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒏 𝒋𝒖𝒔𝒕 𝒃𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒎𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒔, 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒚𝒐𝒖’𝒗𝒆 𝒇𝒐𝒖𝒏𝒅 𝒔𝒐𝒖𝒍 𝒎𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒔 ?
💬 Definitely. I’ve been in bands for fifteen years and I’ve never been in a band that felt like this before. The chemistry has never been there before like there is now. Maybe because of our different ages, every different sexuality, and we’re all from different countries. It’s sort of this big mix and it’s all come to this one big melting pot and it just seems to work.

Photo credit: Frank W Ockenfels III

🔹 𝑴𝒂𝒏𝒚 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒔𝒐𝒏𝒈𝒔 𝒅𝒆𝒂𝒍 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒔𝒆𝒙𝒖𝒂𝒍𝒊𝒕𝒚 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒔𝒆𝒆𝒎 𝒕𝒐 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒅𝒊𝒇𝒇𝒆𝒓𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝒈𝒆𝒏𝒅𝒆𝒓 𝒑𝒐𝒊𝒏𝒕𝒔 𝒐𝒇 𝒗𝒊𝒆𝒘. 𝑰𝒔 𝒊𝒕 𝒋𝒖𝒔𝒕 𝒎𝒆 𝒐𝒓 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒔𝒆 𝒔𝒐𝒏𝒈𝒔 𝒘𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒕𝒆𝒏 𝒍𝒊𝒌𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 ?
💬 Definitely. That is the way Brian writes his lyrics sometimes. Like the song “You Don’t Care About Us”. That is taken from the point of view of somebody talking to Brian. As opposed to him talking to somebody else, actually somebody is asking him, ‘This relationship is going wrong. You don’t care about us, man.’ (𝘭𝘢𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘴 ) But other people translate it like the kids are going to the adults, ‘You don’t care about us!’ It’s weird. They are all coming from all different angles.
“My Sweet Prince” was a female friend of Brian’s who just they were just kind of busting up and that was the last thing she wrote on his mirror in his bathroom before they split up. It is all real, but it can be from any direction really.

🔹 𝑰 𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒅 𝒂 𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚 𝒇𝒖𝒏𝒏𝒚 𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒊𝒄𝒍𝒆 𝒘𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒂 𝒘𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒆𝒓 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒊𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒂𝒖𝒅𝒊𝒆𝒏𝒄𝒆 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒉𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒅 𝒔𝒐𝒎𝒆 𝒓𝒆𝒅𝒏𝒆𝒄𝒌𝒔 𝒘𝒉𝒐 𝒔𝒂𝒘 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒈𝒖𝒚𝒔 𝒕𝒂𝒌𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒈𝒆 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒘𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒔𝒂𝒚𝒊𝒏𝒈, ‘𝑻𝒉𝒂𝒕’𝒔 𝒂 𝒑𝒓𝒆𝒕𝒕𝒚 𝒉𝒐𝒕 𝒄𝒉𝒊𝒄𝒌,’ 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒉𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒅 𝑩𝒓𝒊𝒂𝒏 𝒔𝒊𝒏𝒈. 𝑰𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒂𝒏 𝒐𝒅𝒅 𝒐𝒄𝒄𝒖𝒓𝒓𝒆𝒏𝒄𝒆 𝒐𝒓 𝒊𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒔𝒐𝒎𝒆𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒏𝒐𝒕𝒊𝒄𝒆 𝒐𝒇𝒕𝒆𝒏 ?
💬 It still happens all the time. The band is big in Britain and Europe and stuff and, I mean, we still get guys coming up to me on the street asking, ‘That bloke in your band, is that a girl?’ I mean, that is their first statement, ‘That bloke in your band a girl ?’ Straight away. It’s like, ‘What the fuck do you mean by that ?’ And it’s like, ‘His name is Brian, work it out.’ I mean, that has been going on for years and years. The funniest thing is like now, we are on our fourth tour of America, and it is breaking through slowly and this has been our easiest tour around America yet. It is just weird when you get to places like Tulsa and you get the biggest four-hundred pound redneck walking up to Brian and you are thinking that he is going to punch him in the face and instead he goes (𝘪𝘯 𝘢 𝘥𝘦𝘦𝘱 𝘴𝘰𝘶𝘵𝘩 𝘢𝘤𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘵), ‘You rock man !’ I mean, that is not meant to happen. We are like, ‘What the fuck is going on ?’ Do you know what I mean ? We are getting them all from the insecure gothic types to the meathead rednecks. It’s an achievement in itself. (𝘭𝘢𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘴 𝘩𝘺𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺)

🔹 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑨𝒎𝒆𝒓𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒏 𝒎𝒂𝒓𝒌𝒆𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒚 𝒃𝒊𝒈, 𝒗𝒂𝒔𝒕. 𝑨𝒓𝒆 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒈𝒐𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒂𝒃𝒐𝒖𝒕 𝒊𝒕 𝒂𝒔 𝒕𝒓𝒚𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒐 𝒑𝒊𝒄𝒌 𝒖𝒑 𝒐𝒏𝒆 𝒇𝒂𝒏 𝒂𝒕 𝒂 𝒕𝒊𝒎𝒆 ?
💬 It’s like what we were doing in Britain and Europe, just constantly touring trying to build it and build it and build it. I think we wanted to take the same sort of scenario to America and say we are going to come back in August and September and then we are going to come back in December and just keep coming back and keep touring. U2 style, I suppose.
I mean, a lot of British bands, I mean, we are not a British band, but a lot of British bands will come over and just play New York and L.A. and think they’ve done it. I mean, whatever.

🔹 𝑺𝒑𝒆𝒂𝒌𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒐𝒇 𝑩𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒊𝒔𝒉 𝒃𝒂𝒏𝒅𝒔 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒐𝒖𝒓𝒊𝒏𝒈. 𝑫𝒐 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒌 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒃𝒂𝒏𝒅𝒔 𝒍𝒊𝒌𝒆 𝑶𝒂𝒔𝒊𝒔 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑽𝒆𝒓𝒗𝒆 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒑𝒖𝒕 𝒂 𝒃𝒂𝒅 𝒕𝒂𝒔𝒕𝒆 𝒊𝒏 𝑨𝒎𝒆𝒓𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒏𝒔’ 𝒎𝒐𝒖𝒕𝒉𝒔 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒐𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒃𝒂𝒏𝒅𝒔 𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒇𝒓𝒐𝒎 𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒔𝒆𝒂𝒔 𝒃𝒚 𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒓 𝒉𝒆𝒂𝒓 𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒚 𝒂𝒓𝒓𝒐𝒈𝒂𝒏𝒕 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒂𝒄𝒕𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒘𝒂𝒚 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒅𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒅𝒐𝒏’𝒕 𝒆𝒏𝒅 𝒖𝒑 𝒃𝒆𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒂𝒔 𝒑𝒐𝒑𝒖𝒍𝒂𝒓 𝒂𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒘𝒆𝒓𝒆, 𝒔𝒂𝒚, 𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒔𝒆𝒂𝒔 ?
💬 Definitely. I think they’ve done it to themselves. I mean, The Verve came over to America booking twenty thousand seat arenas. It’s like, ‘No. You haven’t toured America for a long time and nobody really knows you outside of Britain and France.’ And then they come over and get pissed off because they can’t sell out a twenty thousand seat venue. It’s like, ‘Use your loaf.’ It’s simple, isn’t it ? Then they get pissed because they don’t sell it out and they think that all Americans are wankers. It’s like, ‘You’ve got it well mixed up there. You better go back, think about it, and then come back again.’ That is the biggest thing with bands like Oasis and The Verve; they just think the world owes them a fucking living. I don’t think they are particularly great bands anyway.

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🔹 𝑾𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝑶𝒂𝒔𝒊𝒔, 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒉𝒂𝒅 𝒂𝒍𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒅𝒚 𝒔𝒕𝒓𝒖𝒄𝒌 𝒈𝒐𝒍𝒅 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 “𝑾𝒐𝒏𝒅𝒆𝒓𝒘𝒂𝒍𝒍”. 𝑺𝒐, 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒉𝒂𝒅 𝒇𝒂𝒏𝒔 𝒂𝒍𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒅𝒚 𝒊𝒏 𝑨𝒎𝒆𝒓𝒊𝒄𝒂, 𝒃𝒖𝒕 𝒘𝒉𝒆𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒈𝒐𝒕 𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒊𝒕 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒍𝒊𝒌𝒆 𝒑𝒆𝒐𝒑𝒍𝒆 𝒘𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒔𝒂𝒚𝒊𝒏𝒈, ‘𝑾𝒆’𝒗𝒆 𝒄𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒅 𝒂 𝒎𝒐𝒏𝒔𝒕𝒆𝒓.’
💬 Exactly. (𝘭𝘢𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘴) It takes two to tango, I suppose.

🔹 𝑯𝒐𝒘 𝒅𝒐 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒈𝒖𝒚𝒔 𝒑𝒂𝒔𝒔 𝒕𝒊𝒎𝒆 𝒐𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒓𝒐𝒂𝒅 ?
💬 We’ve been working on this. It’s been like a scientific experiment basically, but we manage to rock all night and disco dance all day. We listen to disco and techno all day so we are dancing our way around America on our bus. It is the easiest way to get around the states.

🔹 𝑨𝒏𝒚𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒊𝒏 𝒑𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒊𝒄𝒖𝒍𝒂𝒓 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒍𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒐 ?
💬 Cassius, stuff like that. A lot of old school techno, stuff from 1990 and ’88. Just endless amounts of old school disco like Donna Summer. We haven’t been listening to a lot of guitar music because we haven’t found any guitar music that has been that inspirational lately.

🔹 𝑰 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒈𝒐𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒐 𝒂𝒔𝒌 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒂𝒃𝒐𝒖𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕. 𝑾𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒅𝒐 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒌 𝒂𝒃𝒐𝒖𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒍𝒂𝒄𝒌 𝒐𝒇 𝒒𝒖𝒂𝒍𝒊𝒕𝒚 𝒎𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒄 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒆𝒔𝒑𝒆𝒄𝒊𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒍𝒂𝒄𝒌 𝒐𝒇 𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒓 𝒒𝒖𝒂𝒍𝒊𝒕𝒚 𝒊𝒏 𝒎𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒄 𝒕𝒐𝒅𝒂𝒚 ? 𝑫𝒐 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒂𝒕𝒕𝒓𝒊𝒃𝒖𝒕𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒍𝒂𝒄𝒌 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒆𝒏𝒕, 𝒐𝒓 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒓𝒆𝒄𝒐𝒓𝒅 𝒍𝒂𝒃𝒆𝒍𝒔 𝒋𝒖𝒔𝒕 𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒑𝒍𝒆𝒕𝒆𝒍𝒚 𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒔𝒂𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒎𝒂𝒓𝒌𝒆𝒕 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒃𝒂𝒏𝒅𝒔 ?
💬 I think it is down to the lack of talent and the lack of imagination. I’ve never been in a situation, and I never intend to be in a situation, where a record company is telling you what to do and telling you the way that you should market yourself. It’s like, ‘No, no, no.’ The record labels are the people with the plans and the contacts. I’m an artist. You create your own thing and bring it to them and say, “Let’s do this with it.” And then start talking.

🔹 𝑫𝒐 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒌 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝒘𝒉𝒚 𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒖𝒑𝒑𝒆𝒓 𝒄𝒍𝒂𝒔𝒔 𝒌𝒊𝒅𝒔 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒑𝒆𝒐𝒑𝒍𝒆 𝒘𝒉𝒐 𝒂 𝒇𝒆𝒘 𝒚𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒔 𝒂𝒈𝒐 𝒘𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅 𝒏𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒓 𝒃𝒆 𝒄𝒂𝒖𝒈𝒉𝒕 𝒅𝒆𝒂𝒅 𝒍𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒐 𝑴𝒂𝒓𝒊𝒍𝒚𝒏 𝑴𝒂𝒏𝒔𝒐𝒏 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒏𝒐𝒘 𝒍𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒐 𝒉𝒊𝒎 𝒃𝒆𝒄𝒂𝒖𝒔𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒔𝒐𝒏𝒂 ?
💬 Yeah. I mean Marilyn Manson looks great, but the album is crap.

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🔹 𝑰’𝒎 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒃𝒊𝒈 𝒐𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒏𝒆𝒘 𝒐𝒏𝒆 𝒆𝒊𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓.
💬 It’s dreadful. It’s like what the fuck is that ?

🔹 𝑯𝒆 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅𝒏’𝒕 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒍𝒆𝒇𝒕 𝑻𝒓𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝑹𝒆𝒛𝒏𝒐𝒓.
💬 Exactly, but he could have looked fantastic and actually had a fantastic album. Then it is a different story.

🔹 𝒀𝒆𝒂𝒉. 𝑰𝒕 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒋𝒖𝒔𝒕 𝒕𝒐𝒐 𝒎𝒖𝒄𝒉 𝒅𝒓𝒂𝒎𝒂.
💬 It is very same-e. You can listen all the way through the album and you say it could have been the same song basically. It’s a classic example of image taking control, which is wrong because you should always have your music first and then you play with your image.
And to finish answering the question, I do think that record labels are mass-producing and not giving artists enough time to grow.

🔹 𝑺𝒑𝒆𝒂𝒌𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒐𝒇 𝒊𝒎𝒂𝒈𝒆, 𝒅𝒐𝒆𝒔 𝒊𝒕 𝒃𝒐𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒂 𝒍𝒐𝒕 𝒐𝒇 𝒘𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒔 𝒔𝒑𝒆𝒏𝒅 𝒂 𝒍𝒐𝒕 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒊𝒎𝒆 𝒐𝒏 𝒚𝒐𝒖𝒓 𝒊𝒎𝒂𝒈𝒆 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒅𝒐𝒏’𝒕 𝒑𝒂𝒚 𝒂𝒔 𝒎𝒖𝒄𝒉 𝒂𝒕𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝒕𝒐 𝒚𝒐𝒖𝒓 𝒎𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒄 ?
💬 We are trying to keep a tight reign on that. It doesn’t really bother me, what journalists write. I mean, you get out of England as an artist and interviews become a lot easier because journalists obviously have got some kind of education and they seem to know what, he/she knows what they are talking about. In Britain, they have this idea that the journalist is above the artist. They’ve got this weird way of working it. They’ve got egos bigger than fucking hell. It’s weird. Once they champion you and bring you to that level, they want to tear you down. And it’s just kind of like, ‘Fuck off’.

🔹 𝑰 𝒅𝒊𝒅 𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒅 𝒂 𝒍𝒐𝒕 𝒐𝒇 𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒊𝒄𝒍𝒆𝒔 𝒘𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒘𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒅𝒊𝒈𝒈𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒅𝒊𝒓𝒕.
💬 I think it is funny when a band’s press starts getting press. It’s just silly. People fishing and trying to find shit and get more shit on you.

🔹 𝑫𝒐 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒇𝒊𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑨𝒎𝒆𝒓𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒏 𝒑𝒓𝒆𝒔𝒔 𝒊𝒔 𝒎𝒐𝒓𝒆 𝒓𝒆𝒔𝒑𝒆𝒄𝒕𝒇𝒖𝒍 ?
💬 Yeah. And they seem to know more about music and know their musical history a lot more. (pauses) I’m getting the signal to wind it up now. We’ve got to do this CNN thing now.

🔹 𝑺𝒐 𝑰 𝒃𝒆𝒕𝒕𝒆𝒓 𝒍𝒆𝒕 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒈𝒐.
💬 Yeah. I’m getting people staring at me. (𝘭𝘢𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘴)

🔹 𝑾𝒆𝒍𝒍, 𝒘𝒆 𝒘𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅𝒏’𝒕 𝒘𝒂𝒏𝒕 𝒕𝒐 𝒉𝒐𝒍𝒅 𝑪𝑵𝑵 𝒖𝒑 𝒏𝒐𝒘 𝒘𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅 𝒘𝒆 ?
💬 No worries. (𝘭𝘢𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘴)

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