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๐ธ ๐๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ ๐ฒ๐๐๐ซ๐ฌ ๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ ๐ฉ๐๐ฌ๐ฌ๐๐ ๐๐๐ญ๐ฐ๐๐๐ง "๐๐จ๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ข๐ค๐ ๐๐จ๐ฏ๐" ๐๐ง๐ "๐๐๐ฏ๐๐ซ ๐๐๐ญ ๐๐ ๐๐จ", ๐ ๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐ข๐จ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ก๐๐ฌ ๐๐๐๐ง ๐๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐จ๐ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฌ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ง๐ฌ... ๐๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐๐ญ๐๐ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ ๐จ ๐๐๐๐ค ๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฎ๐๐ข๐จ, ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐๐ซ๐ญ ๐ฐ๐ซ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐๐ฐ ๐๐ฅ๐๐ฎ๐ฆ?
๐ข I mean, we've been doing it all our adult lives. When we started, Stef was 20 and I was 22. I was already making music before that, on my own. So we've spent almost our whole lives, writing songs for Placebo. We don't really know what else to do. So, yeah, eight years went by between the two albums, but we toured for "Loud Like Love" for two years, then we released our retrospective compilation, we toured with that as well, and it took us a little while to write the new album as well. And then "Bang", pandemic. So everything was postponed for at least two years. It's not like we're coming out of retirement, it's not a comeback. It's just a new album and it's the circumstances that made it that way.
๐ธ ๐๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐ง๐๐ฐ ๐๐ฅ๐๐ฎ๐ฆ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐๐ "๐๐๐ฏ๐๐ซ ๐๐๐ญ ๐๐ ๐๐จ". ๐๐ฌ ๐ข๐ญ ๐๐๐๐ซ๐๐ฌ๐ฌ๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ง๐ฒ๐จ๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐ญ๐ข๐๐ฎ๐ฅ๐๐ซ?
๐ข "Never Let Me Go", I think it's a very Placebo title. "Without You I'm Nothing", "A Place For Us To Dream", "Never Let Me Go", it's a very human title and it's inspired by one of my favourite books by Kazuo Ishiguro, it's a book about clones. It's really a book I recommend. That's the inspiration for the title.
๐ธ "๐๐๐ฏ๐๐ซ ๐๐๐ญ ๐๐ ๐๐จ" ๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐ง ๐๐ฅ๐๐ฎ๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐๐ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ซ๐๐๐จ๐ซ๐๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ๐ ๐๐ญ๐ก๐๐ซ, ๐ข๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐ข๐ซ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ข๐ฆ๐ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐ค ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐๐ฒ. ๐๐ก๐ฒ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐ก๐จ๐ข๐๐, ๐ฐ๐๐ฌ ๐ข๐ญ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐๐๐ญ๐ข๐๐๐ฅ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ก๐๐๐ฅ๐ญ๐ก ๐๐ซ๐ข๐ฌ๐ข๐ฌ ๐จ๐ซ ๐๐ข๐ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฐ๐๐ง๐ญ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐จ ๐ฌ๐จ๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ซ๐๐ง๐ญ?
๐ข Yes, it was convenient but we were also looking for the difference, we were looking for a different process. We found ourselves in our studio, which we built ourselves, the two of us, thinking: "What are we going to do ?" It was a bit like when we started. We didn't have a record deal and we were recording demos on tape in the living room. The only difference is that we have a studio now. So we thought we had almost infinite possibilities here, we could really enjoy ourselves. We just did a tour, we played our hits, we made everyone happy. So let's enjoy ourselves this time. That's the attitude we approached the album with. I think it's important, if you can't make music that you are excited about yourself, how do you want other people to be excited about it? If you don't have an emotional connection, if what you say is not important to you, how can you expect it to be important to others ?
๐ธ ๐๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐๐ฐ ๐๐ฅ๐๐ฎ๐ฆ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ช๐ฎ๐ข๐ญ๐ ๐ฏ๐๐ซ๐ข๐๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฒ๐ฅ๐๐ฌ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ฆ๐จ๐จ๐๐ฌ... ๐๐ฌ๐ง'๐ญ ๐ข๐ญ ๐ญ๐จ๐จ ๐ก๐๐ซ๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ ๐ซ๐๐ ๐จ๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ข๐๐๐ฅ ๐๐ข๐ซ๐๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐ฐ๐ก๐๐ง ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐ค ๐ข๐ง ๐ฉ๐๐ข๐ซ๐ฌ?
๐ข We really got tired of musical democracy in a band. We've always operated as a democratic state up to now. There was always a battle between us and the drummer. We were fed up with it, so we decided to become intended dictators and it became much easier for us. When it comes to artistic choices, Stef and I almost always agree. So there's a ease. We were really on the same path most of the time. We wanted to take back ownership of our band. and take all the decisions ourselves.
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๐ข I was afraid of being bored after twenty-seven years of creation if we stayed with our classic methodology. I was afraid it would become repetitive for me, I was afraid I would get bored. So I basically decided to do everything backwards. The last creative decision you make when you've made an album is to choose the cover. So I started with the cover. I showed up at the studio with this picture and said to Stefan:
- ๐ท๐ ๐ฆ๐๐ข ๐๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ก๐ข๐๐ ?
- ๐๐๐โ, ๐๐ก'๐ ๐๐๐๐.
- ๐๐๐ข๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ก ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ ?
- ๐๐๐โ, ๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐.
- ๐๐๐๐ฆ, ๐ ๐ ๐กโ๐๐ก'๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐.
And then I had a list of song titles. Instead of a book full of lyrics, I wrote lists and lists of titles and showed them to Stef. Normally you write the song first and then you decide on the title afterwards. So we started with the titles this time. It was really to break the comfort.
When I worked with David Bowie, his mantra was always:
- ๐ท๐ ๐ฆ๐๐ข ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐ค๐๐กโ ๐คโ๐๐ก ๐ฆ๐๐ข'๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ค ?
- ๐๐๐๐ ๐ฆ๐๐โ ๐ท๐๐ฃ๐๐.
- ๐โ๐๐ ๐ฆ๐๐ข'๐๐ ๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ก ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ก ๐ค๐๐ฆ.
For David, he always had to feel a little bit uncomfortable, there had to be danger, he had to break things. And that's how he was able to reinvent himself so many times. It takes courage to do that. That's one of the huge things he taught me as a human being. So I wanted to create an environment where there was no comfort, where there was risk and danger all the time. When you create that kind of environment to work in, there are lots of accidents and mistakes, things that you would never have thought of yourself. You create the possibility to surprise yourself, and for me that was important.
๐ธ ๐๐ฆ๐จ๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐ข๐ซ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ซ๐๐๐ค๐ฌ ๐ฎ๐ง๐ฏ๐๐ข๐ฅ๐๐ ๐จ๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐๐ฐ ๐๐ฅ๐๐ฎ๐ฆ, ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐๐ก๐จ๐ฌ๐ "๐๐๐๐ฎ๐ญ๐ข๐๐ฎ๐ฅ ๐๐๐ฆ๐๐ฌ", ๐ฐ๐ก๐ฒ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ซ๐๐๐ค?
๐ข It was obvious, it wasn't really a decision. The singles kind of choose themselves. We knew as soon as we recorded it that it would be the first single.
๐ธ ๐๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฌ๐จ๐ง๐ , ๐ฐ๐ ๐๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ฆ๐๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐๐ฅ๐ซ๐๐๐๐ฒ ๐๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ซ๐จ๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐ฌ๐จ๐ง๐ "๐๐๐ง๐๐ฒ ๐๐จ๐ฒ". ๐๐ซ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐จ ๐ฌ๐จ๐ง๐ ๐ฌ ๐ซ๐๐ฅ๐๐ญ๐๐?
๐ข Honestly, I never thought about it because I tend not to compare what is new with what is old. I don't really like looking backThis song reminds me more of Van Halen's "Jump". When I was young in the 80s, Van Halen was a rock band that was very well known in the US, but not really known in the rest of the world. When they came back with the album '1984', all the Van Halen fans were incredibly angry because their guitar hero was playing synth. But it was that one song that turned Van Halen from American rock stars into global superstars. And while we were mixing that song, I was thinking that maybe it could be our 'Jump'. I hadn't heard 'Jump' since the 80s. So I went home, downloaded it, listened to it and realised that the synth sound is the same, it was crazy.
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๐ข There's a lot more mystery to us with synths than there is with guitars, because we've been using them for 25/27 years, putting guitars first, so there's a lot less mystery. We want to learn, to fool around, to find new things, new instruments, to use them in the wrong way to create surprising sounds. It's exciting for us because we don't have the knowledge, so we're still discovering. We're a little bit like teenagers in the studio with these keyboards and synths. We don't know how they work, but that's not a problem. You plug them in and then you fool around and maybe there'll be an accident of tremendous beauty, and that's happened several times on this album.
๐ธ ๐๐ง ๐๐ฅ๐๐ฎ๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ฐ๐๐ฌ ๐ฆ๐๐ซ๐ค๐๐ ๐๐ฒ ๐ ๐ฅ๐จ๐ญ ๐จ๐ ๐ซ๐ข๐ฌ๐ค-๐ญ๐๐ค๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐ง๐?
๐ข You have to have the courage to break with what made you most famous. Like David Bowie always did. Just before it gets repetitive, "Boom ! That's it !", you do something new.
And that's also what kills art. It's that repetition, working with a formula. Yeah... And, I get bored easily too, and that's what drives me to find different methodologies. I've really taken it to the extreme with this album, and I think you can hear it.
๐ธ ๐๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐ฅ๐๐ฎ๐ฆ, ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ซ๐ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐จ๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ซ๐๐๐ค ๐ข๐ง ๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐ญ๐ข๐๐ฎ๐ฅ๐๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ญ ๐๐๐ฎ๐ ๐ก๐ญ ๐ฆ๐ฒ ๐๐ญ๐ญ๐๐ง๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง, ๐ข๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ญ๐ซ๐๐๐ค "๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ซ๐จ๐๐ข๐ ๐๐ฅ" ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐จ๐ซ๐๐ก๐๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง... ๐๐จ๐ฐ ๐๐ข๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐๐ง๐ ๐ซ๐๐๐จ๐ซ๐๐ข๐ง๐ ๐จ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ซ๐๐๐ค ๐ ๐จ?
๐ข The Prodigal is the only song I wrote before I started working on this album. I was asked to write a theme for a movie, and the movie was never made. I don't know what happened, but the film doesn't exist. The plot of the film was about a rock band and one of the members died on stage. So I decided to write an optimistic, Buddhist song about death. But musically when I wrote it, it was almost a photocopy of 'Where Is My Mind' by the Pixies. When we got into the studio, we wanted to work on that song, but we really wanted to change the sound completely and it was our producer who suggested: "Why don't we do something more like The Beatles' Eleanor Rigby ?" I have two favourite bands, The Beatles and Sonic Youth. So I was very excited about the idea. That's why we ended up in this sonic landscape with all these strings and that's what became The Prodigal.
๐ธ ๐๐ข๐ญ๐ก "๐๐๐ฏ๐๐ซ ๐๐๐ญ ๐๐ ๐๐จ", ๐๐๐ง๐ฌ ๐๐ซ๐ ๐ ๐ข๐ฏ๐๐ง ๐๐ง ๐๐ฆ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐๐ก๐๐ซ๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ฅ๐๐ฎ๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐จ๐ญ๐ก ๐๐๐ญ๐ก๐๐ซ๐ญ๐ข๐ ๐๐ง๐ ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ข๐ญ๐ญ๐๐. ๐๐จ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ค ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ญ๐จ๐๐๐ฒ ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ข๐ ๐๐๐ง ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐๐ก๐๐ง๐ ๐ ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ญ๐๐ฅ๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐๐ฌ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ฆ๐๐ค๐ ๐ฉ๐๐จ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ค?
๐ข I'm not sure... After the 60s, music didn't change the world, and in the 70s, neither. I'm not convinced of that. It's a cathartic thing for me. It's a kind of therapy, basically. I externalise the things that consume me, that make me feel bad, that make my life emotionally difficult. I'm not someone who writes songs every day, I write songs in a state of urgency. And it's absolutely necessary that I get them out of myself otherwise they'll consume me, they'll eat me up completely. And I think it's beautiful to be able to communicate with people, to communicate these ideas that are important to me.
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