Photo credit: MTV – Europe Music Award 2009, Berlin |
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “There is definitely a bigger sense of hope and optimism on this record, butPlacebo's music and lyrics are never going to be like a dance in a field of flowers you know? There is always the fascination in there with the darker side of human emotions. I think with 'Meds' we explored personal human pain, it was quite under the microscope and so, it is really hard to get any darker and bleaker than 'Meds'. In a way we wanted to do something different that was a reaction to the ideas on that album, something that was about accepting the darkness but embracing the light in a way and that is shown in the title 'Battle For The Sun'. Throughout the making of the previous album and throughout the tour, Placebo was in quite an unhealthy state and since then we have made a few important decisions and I think that 'Battle For The Sun' is a bit of a new beginning and it's the celebration of a new found freedom.“
๐๐๐ก ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐๐ซ๐ฃ๐๐ก๐ ๐ข๐ก ๐ช๐๐๐ง ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐ ๐๐๐ก ๐๐ฌ ๐๐ฅ๐๐๐๐ข๐ ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ข๐ช ๐ง๐๐๐ง ๐๐ข๐ ๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐ฅ๐ข๐ฆ๐ฆ ๐ง๐๐ฅ๐ข๐จ๐๐ ๐ง๐๐ ๐ก๐๐ช ๐๐๐๐จ๐ ?
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “Well, the situation with our previous drummer towards the end was one where we weren't communicating, and where we didn't want to write together and we didn't want to jam together - that's not a band. So it became like punching the clock and that's not what we set out to do. So, as it was myself and Brian [Molko, vocals] who started the band 15 years ago, this time, we said to each other "We need to steer this shit back on the right track". We made some hard but necessary decisions and the two of us came together to start writing again like we did back in the day. We felt that there really is still the passion for it, and although we went through some hard times, it was never a case of killing Placebo it was just a case of finding the remedy. So, we found this little blonde boy.“ [Stefan laughs and glances toward Steve, who in turn looks back thoroughly amused]
๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐๐๐ฉ๐ ๐ฆ๐๐๐ ๐ง๐๐๐ง ๐ง๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐จ๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ฅ๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐ง๐๐๐ ๐๐ง๐๐ ๐จ๐ก๐๐ง๐ฌ, ๐ฆ๐ข ๐๐ฅ๐ข๐ ๐ง๐๐ ๐ข๐ฃ๐๐ก๐๐ฅ “๐๐๐ง๐ง๐ฌ ๐๐๐ง๐ง๐๐ฅ“ ๐ง๐ข “๐๐๐ก๐๐ฆ ๐ข๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐“, ๐๐ก ๐ช๐๐๐ง ๐ช๐๐ฌ๐ฆ ๐ง๐ข ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐ง๐๐๐ก๐ ๐ง๐๐๐ง ๐ง๐๐ ๐๐๐ฆ๐ง๐๐ก๐๐ฅ ๐ช๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ง๐ข ๐๐๐๐ก๐ง๐๐๐ฌ ๐ช๐๐ง๐ ๐ง๐๐ ๐ฆ๐ง๐ข๐ฅ๐ฌ ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐๐ฅ๐ ๐ง๐๐๐๐๐ก๐?
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “It's going to sound very vague, but I think it's more of a description of wherePlacebo is as a band right now, where there is a much brighter future. The idea is that, though it might not always be easy, you can build a better life for yourself and you can be happier if you try. That's kind of what is running through the tracks; it was never set out to be a concept album at all, it's just that during the process of recording and writing the record, our situation in life basically infused with the songs to create this thematic unity.“
๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐จ๐ฆ๐ ๐ ๐๐ข๐ง ๐ข๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฅ๐๐ก๐ง ๐๐ก๐ฆ๐ง๐ฅ๐จ๐ ๐๐ก๐ง๐ฆ ๐ข๐ก ๐ง๐๐๐ฆ ๐ก๐๐ช ๐ฅ๐๐๐ข๐ฅ๐, ๐๐ก๐๐๐จ๐๐๐ก๐ ๐ฆ๐๐ซ๐ข๐ฃ๐๐ข๐ก๐๐ฆ ๐๐ก๐ ๐ง๐ฅ๐จ๐ ๐ฃ๐๐ง๐ฆ; ๐๐ข ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐ง๐๐๐ก๐ ๐ง๐๐๐ง ๐จ๐ง๐๐๐๐ฆ๐๐ก๐ ๐ง๐๐๐ฆ๐ ๐๐ก๐ฆ๐ง๐ฅ๐จ๐ ๐๐ก๐ง๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐ง๐ข ๐๐ข๐ก๐ฉ๐๐ฌ ๐ง๐๐ ๐ฃ๐ข๐ฆ๐๐ง๐๐ฉ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐ข๐ก ๐ง๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐จ๐ ๐ข๐ก ๐๐ก๐ฌ ๐ฃ๐๐ฅ๐ง๐๐๐จ๐๐๐ฅ ๐ง๐ฅ๐๐๐?
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐: “I think 'Battle For The Sun' was used quite well, or 'Kings Of Medicine' with the horns. On that one, it becomes quite an 'All You Need Is Love'-style Beatles-esque happy tune. It's executed very well. They are not so much underneath everything but they are not over the top either. So, there's good usage of a lot of horns, and there's also a piccolo trumpet and some flute on there.“
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “Brian's very proud of that one [both laugh] because he thinks it's going to freak all the Goths out. That's actually Brian's motto: "let's freak the Goths out". We have always been seen as the purveyors of melancholy and luckily we have always had music to exorcise our demons. I think on this record we had a bit more fun and there is a bit more colour to this than on the previous ones.“
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐: “There was a lot of creative freedom; I think a lot of that came from working withDave Bottrill as well, you never felt odd or stupid. It was like, we could try everything and we would come into the studio every day and have a hug, a laugh and a fag and then we would sit down and do some writing together.“
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “Don't forget the lattes!“
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐: “I think all that created this easy-going atmosphere, which actually in turn was a lot more productive - you didn't have any arguments with someone saying "no, I don't want to do that". So with those little noises we have like the toy keyboard ['For What It's Worth'] it was just like "why not, let's try it".
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “It was Brian's twisted sense of humour.“ [laughs]
Steve: “There was freedom to try things like that, it's like you never know it might be shit but sometimes those happy mistakes end up being the best things in a song.“
Placebo live in Bologna, 2009. |
๐๐๐ฉ๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ง๐ง๐ฅ๐๐๐ ๐ฃ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐จ๐๐๐ ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐๐๐ก ๐ ๐ข๐จ๐๐๐๐ฅ ๐ ๐๐ซ๐๐ ๐ข๐ก ๐ง๐๐๐ฆ ๐ก๐๐ช ๐ฅ๐๐๐ข๐ฅ๐ – ๐ช๐๐๐ง ๐ฃ๐๐๐ฅ๐๐ฆ ๐ข๐ ๐ช๐๐ฆ๐๐ข๐ ๐ช๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ฃ๐๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ก ๐๐ฅ๐๐ก๐ ๐ง๐ข ๐ง๐๐ ๐๐๐ก๐ ๐ง๐๐๐ง ๐ฅ๐๐๐๐๐ฌ ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ง๐ ๐ง๐๐ ๐ฆ๐ข๐จ๐ก๐?
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “Well basically, you know Placebo made five albums prior to this one, and we all came out of those five recording sessions pretty fucking traumatised. We have always had a dysfunctional relationship with our producers in the past, God knows why? All the recording processes have been quite painful, and with this one, it's the opposite. I don't know if it’s because David Bottrill has won a couple of Grammys, so that might make him a better producer, I don't know? It's like Steve said, everything that we tried he always made it feel like what we were doing was worthwhile. He was very good at communicating and bringing out the best in us. So that was the recording process. In two months we did eighteen songs which is the fastest we have ever recorded that amount ever. Then, withAlan Moulder who is famous for doing almost all the stuff with Nine Inch Nails, as well as working with Smashing Pumpkins, Depeche Mode and White Lies. It was an absolute pleasure. Basically Alan made the music sound the way we had it in our heads, which may sound obvious to most people but it's actually difficult to do, but he did it and he made it look so easy. He was so nice, for us it was like "why haven’t we worked with you before?" It was the most painless recording session we have ever had - finally after our sixth album it feels like we have actually hit on the big league, and the A-team of producers and mixers.“
๐ช๐๐๐ง ๐๐ฆ ๐ง๐๐ ๐๐๐ฉ๐ข๐จ๐ฅ๐๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ๐ฅ ๐๐๐๐จ๐ ๐ฆ?
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “Well, I am going to be biased obviously. It's weird because I have been listening to this new record a lot recently. The more you listen to something you don't hear it objectively, so right now it is this new record. It feels the less tortured and the most optimistic, and definitely the biggest.“
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐: [speaking to Stefan] “As an outsider and someone who has not been a part of the last five records, I can only comment on this one. When I joined the band, I had to obviously study the records inside and out. Whilst the others were great bodies of work, this one has brought out all the potential that you've always had, even fifteen years later. Seeing it from an outsider's point of view and working with you on this new record, even though you have been going for so long, there was still so much potential to make this huge, brilliant, fucking record. When we got the final product, it was just like 'boom'. That's why it is my favourite, it's like all the potential that you had to put that great live energy into a record, you finally did it and I'm very happy to be a part of it.“
๐ง๐๐๐ก๐๐ฆ ๐ฆ๐๐๐ ๐ง๐ข ๐๐ ๐๐ข๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ฅ๐ข๐ ๐ฆ๐ง๐ฅ๐๐ก๐๐ง๐ ๐ง๐ข ๐ฆ๐ง๐ฅ๐๐ก๐๐๐ง ๐ฆ๐๐ก๐๐ ๐ฆ๐ง๐๐ฉ๐ ๐๐ข๐๐ก๐๐ – ๐๐๐ก ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐ง๐๐๐ ๐จ๐ฆ ๐๐๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐ข๐ก๐ ๐ข๐ ๐ง๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ก๐ ๐ ๐ข๐ ๐๐ก๐ง๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐๐๐ฉ๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ง๐ข๐๐๐ง๐๐๐ฅ ๐๐ฆ ๐ ๐๐๐ก๐ ๐ช๐๐๐๐ฆ๐ง ๐ช๐ข๐ฅ๐๐๐ก๐ ๐ข๐ก ๐ง๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐จ๐ ?
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐: “Well literally they said "welcome to the family"...“
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “You're still on trial...“
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐: “Yeah we still have to tour together, but actually for me, from the very first time we played together, it just popped into my head that "this is the last band I am ever going to be in". It was on my first day and in the first five minutes playing with each other, but as soon as we started jamming 'Kitty Litter', I just felt it: "I'm not going anywhere and I am going to make damn sure I get this job and keep it, you have gone 15 years and I am going to take you 15 more". So, I think the very first time we played together was the defining moment. For me it was like this is the band I have been searching for all these years, I have played with all these different bands and dealt with different people but it was like finally I have found it, I've found the love of my life.“ [laughs]
๐ข๐, ๐๐จ๐ฌ๐ฆ, ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐๐ฅ๐ ๐๐ข๐ฆ๐ง๐๐ก๐ ๐ง๐๐ ๐ฃ๐๐ฅ๐๐๐๐ง ๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐๐ข ๐๐๐ก๐ก๐๐ฅ ๐ฃ๐๐ฅ๐ง๐ฌ, ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ก๐ฉ๐๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ก๐ ๐ฃ๐๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ก – ๐๐๐๐ ๐ข๐ฅ ๐๐๐๐ฉ๐ – ๐ช๐๐ข ๐ช๐ข๐จ๐๐ ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐๐ก๐ฉ๐๐ง๐ ๐๐ก๐ ๐ช๐๐ฌ?
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “I would invite the singers from Abba, Anni-Frid and Agnetha because they would both have very interesting stories to tell. I want to coax them into coming to do some guest vocals on my side-project.“
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐: “I think this is going to sound a bit typical and clichรฉ but I would have to invite Keith Moon...“
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “We wouldn't see him for around two weeks. He would be on a two week bender!“
Steve: “I would invite him because a) he would be the only person around the table that I could talk drums with, that would care. And b) he would be brilliant, it seems like he would be a right laugh! So, yeah it would be Keith.“
Placebo live at Main Square, 2009. |
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “Well, Brian is the main writer for this band, so the only way I can answer is by offering you my own interpretation. There's always a bit of a conflict going on in the characters that are there in the songs that he writes. I think 'Battle For The Sun' works in the same way that 'Without You I'm Nothing' did as the title track on the second album.'Battle For The Sun' kind of puts a little umbrella over what the characters are going through in the other tracks, in the sense where the moon is in front of the sun, and when the moon is there like the umbrella, it's dark but when it moves away there is light and you can choose whether to be in the dark or in the light. You can choose to lead a happier life, it might not be easy, but you should hold on to the hope and the optimism.“
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐: “It's the idea that if you love something, it's worth fighting for.“
๐ง๐๐๐ ๐จ๐ฆ ๐๐๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐ง๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ก๐๐๐ฃ๐ง ๐๐ข๐ฅ ๐ง๐๐ ๐ก๐๐ช ๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ข “๐๐ข๐ฅ ๐ช๐๐๐ง ๐๐ง'๐ฆ ๐ช๐ข๐ฅ๐ง๐“ ๐๐ก๐ ๐ช๐๐๐ง ๐ง๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐ก ๐๐ง ๐๐ฅ๐ ๐๐๐ข๐จ๐ง.
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “We worked with one of our favourite video directors, Howard Greenhalgh, who has been working with us for a long time. He has done loads of stuff for us including 'Nancy Boy', 'Bruise Pristine' and 'The Bitter End', so we had a long relationship with him that enabled us to feel more relaxed, especially now we are introducing a new member to the public. We wanted it to be quite performance based and the tags were basically about the fact that sometimes what you see, is not what is real. We wanted to play with that. People like to portray themselves as something that is completely the opposite of what is inside of them. With the lyrics, Brian describes them as being quite optimistic but if you listen to them on face value, "got no friends, got no lover", it's like "shit, you're in the gutter" but to him the song is like a celebration of life. It's that dichotomy of what you see and what you hear not always being what is actually there.“
Steve: “You can take a photo and it can be two people, they can be hanging out and happy but if you put a label on, it completely changes the whole meaning of it. It could be like "cunt". My favourite bit is the guy with the suitcase walking to work and it's like "detonation". It's brilliant.“
๐ข๐๐ฉ๐๐ข๐จ๐ฆ๐๐ฌ ๐ช๐๐๐ก ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐๐๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ง ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐ช๐๐ฅ๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ง ๐ข๐ ๐ ๐ฆ๐๐๐ฃ ๐๐ก ๐ง๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ข๐ ๐๐ฅ๐๐ง๐๐ฆ๐ ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐ ๐ ๐จ๐ฆ๐๐, ๐๐ก๐ ๐ก๐ข๐ช ๐ช๐๐ง๐ “๐๐๐ง๐ง๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ฅ ๐ง๐๐ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ก“ ๐๐ง'๐ฆ ๐ ๐ก๐๐ช ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ก๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ข๐ฅ ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ – ๐๐ฆ ๐ง๐๐๐ฅ๐ ๐๐ก๐ฌ๐ง๐๐๐ก๐ ๐๐๐ฆ๐ ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐๐ฅ๐ ๐๐ข๐ข๐๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ข๐ฅ๐ช๐๐ฅ๐ ๐ง๐ข ๐๐ข๐๐ก๐?
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “Well, I think that any band would be lying to you if they said they didn't want to be the biggest in the world, so we are still aiming for the moon you know? But, we are half way there.“
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐: “I have got a few years of travelling the world to experience.“
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “When we played Brixton Academy for the first time, it was like "Wow", then we thought that we had made it, but there's always more things to aspire to, you know? I believe that myself and Brian chose to pursue the ambition of Placebo whereas our old drummer didn'. We just want to write that song that becomes a classic, and we haven't done that yet.“
๐ฆ๐ง๐๐, ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ๐ฅ ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐ ๐ฃ๐๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ก๐ ๐ฆ๐๐๐-๐ฃ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐๐๐ง ๐๐ฆ ๐ฉ๐๐ฆ๐ง๐๐ฌ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฅ๐๐ก๐ง ๐ง๐ข ๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐๐ข ๐๐ก ๐ง๐๐๐ง ๐๐ง ๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐ฉ๐๐๐ฌ ๐๐๐๐๐ง๐ฅ๐ข๐ก๐๐. ๐๐ข ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐๐๐ง ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฅ๐๐ก๐ง ๐๐๐ก๐ ๐ข๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ ๐ช๐๐๐ก ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐ฃ๐๐ฅ๐๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐๐๐ฉ๐ ๐๐ก๐ ๐ช๐๐๐ก ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐ช๐ฅ๐๐ง๐? ๐ช๐ ๐๐ก๐ข๐ช ๐๐ฅ๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐ข๐ก๐ ๐ฆ๐ข๐ ๐ ๐ฉ๐ข๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐ฆ๐ข ๐ช๐๐๐ ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐๐ฅ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ก ๐ฆ๐ง๐๐ฉ๐ ๐ก๐๐ซ๐ง?
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “Well, Steve will probably be cheaper than any other session drummer.“
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐: “I'll do it for free baby!“
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “No, Hotel Persona is a side-project, when I'm not doing Placebo. I explore more of the entertainment side of making music, you know, it's more electro and it's more dance and a bit more pop-oriented. There would be no point in doing another Placebo. I mean on the first album, I got Samantha Fox in there! I guess as a musician not everything I write is going to be right for Placebo. Saying that, whenever I write a song, it always goes to Brian first and it's like "hey, do you feel this?" If he does feel it, then it becomes a Placebo song and if not, it becomes something for Hotel Persona.“
๐ฆ๐ง๐๐ฉ๐, ๐๐ข๐ช ๐๐ข๐ก๐ ๐๐๐ฉ๐ ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐ฉ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ก ๐๐ข๐ก๐๐ข๐ก ๐ก๐ข๐ช ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ข๐ช ๐๐ฅ๐ ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐๐ก๐๐ข๐ฌ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ง?
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐: “I've been here for about a year and a half now and I have loved it, I have always wanted to live in London. I'm a California boy but for some reason I have always had an obsession with England. I think in my past life I was a Brit or something. I've always wanted to move here. It was a bit hard, it was hundreds of miles and my first time ever coming here and then moving here. The only people I knew were my bandmates who are all in their mid-30s and have their own lives, so it was like "see you at rehearsal". It was a little like starting all over again but it was a brilliant adventure and I think it definitely forced me to grow up a lot faster, it grounded me and got me prepared to be in the position that I am.“
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “This is the kind of guy that walks into a pub and half an hour later he will be like, "hey Stef, meet my funny new friends". He goes out and then says, “oh yeah I went out last night, I met Clive Owen, I had a chat with him“.“
๐๐ก ๐ช๐๐๐ง ๐ช๐๐ฌ๐ฆ ๐๐ข ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ง๐๐๐ง ๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐๐ข ๐๐๐ฉ๐ ๐๐ข๐ ๐ ๐๐จ๐๐ ๐๐๐ฅ๐๐๐? ๐๐ข๐๐ฆ ๐๐ง ๐๐ง ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ง ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ง ๐ง๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ก๐๐ก๐?
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐๐ฃ: “Well, it's like we have a future again, which during the 'Meds' period was not the case you know. The future seems a lot less daunting.“
๐ข ๐๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐: “I am psyched, I mean honestly, it sounds like every musician's story but since I was a kid, I always knew that this is what I wanted to do, I never went to college and I barely even went to high-school. I would just basically lock myself away in my room for as long as possible and just play and go to gigs, I was constantly studying music in any way that I could. I had all these part-time really shitty jobs just to get money for new equipment, to crawl my way up to this point it's the best feeling in the world. For the future it' like things can only get better from here. Of course there will be highs and lows, but it's going to be a privilege to have those times and I don't ever want it to end.“
(Clickmusic, April 2009)
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