Friday, December 17, 2021

♦️๐ˆ๐๐“๐„๐‘๐•๐ˆ๐„๐–: ๐€๐‹๐“๐„๐‘๐๐€๐“๐ˆ๐•๐„ ๐๐‘๐„๐’๐’ ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ♦️

It's time for an ๐Ÿ”ธ๐ˆ๐๐“๐„๐‘๐•๐ˆ๐„๐–๐Ÿ”ธ again. In this one from 2001 Brian and Stefan talk a lot about songs from the album “Black market music” and the rock star lifestyle. Other topics are Brian's family and Club 27. Enjoy reading!

Photo credit: Scarlet Page

๐——๐—ข ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ ๐—˜๐—ฉ๐—˜๐—ฅ ๐—™๐—˜๐—˜๐—Ÿ ๐—ง๐—ฅ๐—”๐—ฃ๐—ฃ๐—˜๐—— ๐—•๐—ฌ ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ๐—ฅ ๐—œ๐— ๐—”๐—š๐—˜? ๐—œ๐—™ ๐—œ ๐—ช๐—˜๐—ฅ๐—˜ ๐—˜๐—ซ๐—ฃ๐—˜๐—–๐—ง๐—œ๐—ก๐—š ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ ๐—ง๐—ข ๐—ฃ๐—Ÿ๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ง๐—›๐—˜ ๐—ฅ๐—ข๐—–๐—ž ๐—”๐—ก๐—— ๐—ฅ๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ ๐—”๐—ก๐—œ๐— ๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—™๐—ข๐—ฅ ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ฆ๐—ง๐—”๐—ก๐—–๐—˜ ๐—”๐—ก๐—— ๐—œ ๐—ฆ๐—ง๐—”๐—ฅ๐—ง๐—˜๐—— ๐—•๐—จ๐—ฌ๐—œ๐—ก๐—š ๐—ฆ๐—›๐—ข๐—ง๐—ฆ ๐—”๐—ก๐—— ๐—ฃ๐—ฅ๐—ข๐——๐—จ๐—–๐—œ๐—ก๐—š ๐——๐—ฅ๐—จ๐—š๐—ฆ...
๐Ÿ“ข  ๐™Ž๐™ฉ๐™š๐™›๐™–๐™ฃ: [Leans forward with a conspiratorial grin.] “Are you trying to tell us something?“ [laughs]

๐—•๐—จ๐—ง ๐——๐—ข ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ ๐—™๐—˜๐—˜๐—Ÿ ๐—ฃ๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—˜ ๐—ง๐—ข ๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—จ๐—ฃ ๐—ง๐—›๐—”๐—ง ๐—œ๐— ๐—”๐—š๐—˜?
๐Ÿ“ข  ๐˜ฝ๐™ง๐™ž๐™–๐™ฃ: “In the past I think we may have been guilty of putting the lifestyle before the music. Now the focus is on doing what we do to the best of our abilities. And when you've managed to do that, then you can reward yourself and go a bit crazy. As long as you've got enough time to get over it before the next show. We don't want to let each other down, or the fans, even though maybe we never did let them down by embracing the rock lifestyle. Maybe it's what we needed to do. But then our capacity for consumption was far greater than it is now. As soon as you hit 25, hangovers completely change.“

๐—›๐—”๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ ๐——๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—–๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—— ๐—”๐—ก๐—ฌ ๐—ฅ๐—˜๐— ๐—˜๐——๐—œ๐—˜๐—ฆ?
๐Ÿ“ข  ๐™Ž๐™ฉ๐™š๐™›๐™–๐™ฃ: “Living as if there's a tomorrow. There's a great Chinese proverb: Live as if every day is your last, and as if you're going to live for another 100 years.“

๐—œ๐—ฆ ๐—ง๐—›๐—”๐—ง ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—จ๐—ง๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ข๐—ž ๐—๐—จ๐—ฆ๐—ง ๐—” ๐—•๐—ฌ-๐—ฃ๐—ฅ๐—ข๐——๐—จ๐—–๐—ง ๐—ข๐—™ ๐—”๐—š๐—˜?
๐Ÿ“ข  ๐˜ฝ๐™ง๐™ž๐™–๐™ฃ: “You're not the same person you were when you were 22. You're 22 years old, you've been on welfare, and now you've got a record in the charts, money, people paying attention to you for the first time. You're going to go absolutely fucking apeshit. But then comes the post-coital depression. And that was 'Without you I'm nothing'. That's waking up after the party. You look around at the debris, and the memories come back. You feel ashamed and you place your head firmly against the pillow and go, "Oh, no ... Why?"“

๐—ข๐—ก ๐—ง๐—›๐—˜ ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—•๐—จ๐— '๐—ฆ '๐—ฃ๐—”๐—ฆ๐—ฆ๐—œ๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—”๐—š๐—š๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ๐—œ๐—ฉ๐—˜' ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ ๐—ฆ๐—œ๐—ก๐—š “๐—š๐—ข๐——'๐—ฆ ๐—œ๐—ก ๐—–๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—œ๐—ฆ. ๐—›๐—˜'๐—ฆ ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜๐—ฅ.“ ๐—œ๐—™ ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ ๐—•๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—œ๐—ก ๐—š๐—ข๐——, ๐——๐—ข ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ ๐—›๐—”๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—” ๐—›๐—œ๐—š๐—›๐—˜๐—ฅ ๐—ฃ๐—ข๐—ช๐—˜๐—ฅ ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ ๐—”๐—ฃ๐—ฃ๐—˜๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ง๐—ข ๐—ช๐—›๐—˜๐—ก ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ'๐—ฅ๐—˜ ๐—”๐—ง ๐—ง๐—›๐—˜ ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง ๐—ข๐—™ ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ๐—ฅ ๐—ง๐—˜๐—ง๐—›๐—˜๐—ฅ?
๐Ÿ“ข  ๐˜ฝ๐™ง๐™ž๐™–๐™ฃ: “Yeah, my older brother. [laughs.] I was raised a born-again Christian. I have my life over to Jesus when I was 11. I took it back when I was 14. But that stays with you for a long time. I remember my mother saying, "When Jesus knocks at your door, it's your choice to open the door or to leave it closed. And Jesus will knock for a while, but then your heart will become hardened and he will leave." And the song can be about that, or it can be about not letting someone else into your heart.“

Photo credit: Matthias Clamer

๐—›๐—”๐—ฆ ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ๐—ฅ ๐— ๐—ข๐—  ๐—›๐—˜๐—”๐—ฅ๐—— '๐—•๐—Ÿ๐—”๐—–๐—ž-๐—˜๐—ฌ๐—˜๐——' ๐—œ๐—ก ๐—ช๐—›๐—œ๐—–๐—› ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ ๐—ฆ๐—œ๐—ก๐—š “๐—œ'๐—  ๐—™๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—ฉ๐—˜๐—ฅ ๐—•๐—Ÿ๐—”๐—–๐—ž-๐—˜๐—ฌ๐—˜๐——, ๐—” ๐—ฃ๐—ฅ๐—ข๐——๐—จ๐—–๐—ง ๐—ข๐—™ ๐—” ๐—•๐—ฅ๐—ข๐—ž๐—˜๐—ก ๐—›๐—ข๐— ๐—˜“?
๐Ÿ“ข  ๐˜ฝ๐™ง๐™ž๐™–๐™ฃ: “I don't talk about our music with my mother, but she is proud of me. I think the song would have more of an effect on my dad. He tried to dissuade me from pursuing any artistic endeavours whatsoever. He ignored me for most of my life, and then wanted to be my friend when success came along. I think he studies the songs more. And I think he probably gets the message.“

๐—ง๐—›๐—”๐—ง'๐—ฆ ๐—”๐—ก ๐—จ๐—ก๐—จ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ช๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ง๐—ข ๐—–๐—ข๐— ๐— ๐—จ๐—ก๐—œ๐—–๐—”๐—ง๐—˜.
๐Ÿ“ข  ๐™Ž๐™ฉ๐™š๐™›๐™–๐™ฃ: “It's shit.“
๐Ÿ“ข  ๐˜ฝ๐™ง๐™ž๐™–๐™ฃ: “But that's dysfunctional families for you. And it made me the person I am today. The fact that my mother was extremely religious and my father was a businessman made me forge my own identity at a very young age.“

๐—ช๐—›๐—”๐—ง, ๐——๐—œ๐—— ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ๐—ฅ ๐——๐—”๐—— ๐—˜๐—ซ๐—ฃ๐—˜๐—–๐—ง ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ ๐—ง๐—ข ๐—š๐—ข ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ง๐—ข ๐—•๐—”๐—ก๐—ž๐—œ๐—ก๐—š ๐—”๐—ก๐—— ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ๐—ฅ ๐— ๐—ข๐—  ๐—˜๐—ซ๐—ฃ๐—˜๐—–๐—ง ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ ๐—ง๐—ข ๐—•๐—˜๐—–๐—ข๐— ๐—˜ ๐—” ๐— ๐—œ๐—ก๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—ง๐—˜๐—ฅ?
๐Ÿ“ข  ๐˜ฝ๐™ง๐™ž๐™–๐™ฃ: “You hit the nail right on the head. I was being primed for the ministry. My leadership qualities were recognized and I had private Bible studies with the pastor.“

๐—ช๐—›๐—”๐—ง ๐—ช๐—”๐—ฆ ๐—ง๐—›๐—˜ ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—œ๐—ฅ๐—”๐—ง๐—œ๐—ข๐—ก ๐—™๐—ข๐—ฅ '๐—ฆ๐—Ÿ๐—”๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ง๐—ข ๐—ง๐—›๐—˜ ๐—ช๐—”๐—š๐—˜', ๐—ง๐—›๐—˜๐—ก? ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ'๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฉ๐—˜๐—ฅ ๐—›๐—”๐—— ๐—”๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ง๐—ฅ๐—”๐—œ๐—š๐—›๐—ง ๐—๐—ข๐—• ๐—ง๐—ข ๐—ฅ๐—จ๐—ก ๐—”๐—ช๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—ข๐— .
๐Ÿ“ข  ๐˜ฝ๐™ง๐™ž๐™–๐™ฃ: “The song tells you to be an individual, believe in yourself and have the courage to chase your dreams. If you do, the rewards at the end are tenfold versus doing what your parents tell you to do. Get a good job, get married, have 2.4 children, 1.2 goldfish, 3.6 cars ... To a lot of people, that's the epitome of personal success. Which is why so many people get through a mid-life crisis. People reach a point in their lives and go, "Is this it?"“

Photo credit: Kevin Westenberg

๐—” ๐—–๐—”๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—˜๐—ฅ ๐—œ๐—ก ๐—ฅ๐—ข๐—–๐—ž ๐—›๐—”๐—ฆ ๐—œ๐—ง'๐—ฆ ๐——๐—”๐—ก๐—š๐—˜๐—ฅ๐—ฆ, ๐—ง๐—ข๐—ข. ๐—œ๐—ก '๐—–๐—ข๐— ๐— ๐—˜๐—ฅ๐—–๐—œ๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—™๐—ข๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—˜๐—ฉ๐—œ' ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ ๐—ฆ๐—œ๐—ก๐—š ๐—” ๐—Ÿ๐—”๐—จ๐—ก๐——๐—ฅ๐—ฌ ๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—ง ๐—ข๐—™ ๐—˜๐—ซ๐—–๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ๐—˜๐—ฆ, ๐—™๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ช๐—˜๐—— ๐—•๐—ฌ ๐—ง๐—›๐—˜ ๐—ฃ๐—Ÿ๐—˜๐—” “๐—ฃ๐—Ÿ๐—˜๐—”๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐——๐—ข๐—ก'๐—ง ๐——๐—œ๐—˜“. ๐—ง๐—ข ๐—ช๐—›๐—”๐—ง ๐—˜๐—ซ๐—ง๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง ๐—”๐—ฅ๐—˜ ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—˜๐—”๐—ž๐—œ๐—ก๐—š ๐—ง๐—ข ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—™?
๐Ÿ“ข  ๐˜ฝ๐™ง๐™ž๐™–๐™ฃ: “Very much so. At the time of 'Without You I'm Nothing', I made a lor of bad lifestyle choices. Steve and a couple of other close friends had to grab me by the scruff of the neck and go "You're my friend, I love you. We depend on each other. You've really got to" - like the song says - "change your situation, otherwise you're not going to be on the planet for much longer." I was very lucky to have those people around me.“

๐—ฆ๐—ข ๐—ง๐—›๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ข๐—ก๐—š ๐—œ๐—ง๐—ฆ๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—™ ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐— ๐—ข๐—ฆ๐—ง ๐—•๐—˜๐—–๐—ข๐— ๐—˜๐—ฆ ๐—” ๐—›๐—œ๐—š๐—›๐—˜๐—ฅ ๐—ฃ๐—ข๐—ช๐—˜๐—ฅ, ๐—” ๐—ฉ๐—ข๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ข๐—จ๐—ง๐—ฆ๐—œ๐——๐—˜ ๐—ข๐—™ ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—™ ๐—ฆ๐—”๐—ฌ๐—œ๐—ก๐—š...
๐Ÿ“ข  ๐˜ฝ๐™ง๐™ž๐™–๐™ฃ: “Come back. You're worth more than this.“

๐——๐—œ๐—— ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ ๐—˜๐—ฉ๐—˜๐—ฅ ๐—š๐—˜๐—ง ๐—ง๐—ข ๐—ง๐—›๐—˜ ๐—ฃ๐—ข๐—œ๐—ก๐—ง ๐—ช๐—›๐—˜๐—ฅ๐—˜ ๐—œ๐—ง ๐—™๐—Ÿ๐—”๐—ฆ๐—›๐—˜๐—— ๐—œ๐—ก ๐—ฌ๐—ข๐—จ๐—ฅ ๐— ๐—œ๐—ก๐—— ๐—ง๐—ข ๐—๐—ข๐—œ๐—ก ”๐—ง๐—›๐—”๐—ง ๐—ฆ๐—ง๐—จ๐—ฃ๐—œ๐—— ๐—–๐—Ÿ๐—จ๐—•”, ๐—ง๐—ข ๐—ค๐—จ๐—ข๐—ง๐—˜ ๐—ž๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ง ๐—–๐—ข๐—•๐—”๐—œ๐—ก'๐—ฆ ๐— ๐—ข๐—ง๐—›๐—˜๐—ฅ – ๐—ง๐—ข ๐—•๐—˜๐—–๐—ข๐— ๐—˜ ๐—” ๐—ฅ๐—ข๐—–๐—ž๐—˜๐—ฅ ๐—ช๐—›๐—ข ๐—•๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ก๐—ฆ ๐—ข๐—จ๐—ง ๐—”๐—ง ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿณ?
๐Ÿ“ข  ๐˜ฝ๐™ง๐™ž๐™–๐™ฃ: “The world does not need another rock-and-roll casualty. Cobain, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin - we don't need more casualties like them. I refuse to let that happen. It doesn't mean I'm stronger than they were, but I just have this picture of myself as an old man, getting together with Stef and Steve at the age of 60. Not playing music, but sitting down and going, "Do you remember ... ?" So far my premonitions have been correct.“
(Alternative Press, August 2001)

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