Wednesday, September 1, 2021

INTERVIEW: GAY TIMES 1998

๐Ÿ”ธ๐‘ฐ ๐’‰๐’‚๐’—๐’† ๐’‚ ๐’•๐’†๐’๐’…๐’†๐’๐’„๐’š ๐’•๐’ ๐’ƒ๐’† ๐’‚๐’•๐’•๐’“๐’‚๐’„๐’•๐’†๐’… ๐’•๐’ ๐’—๐’†๐’“๐’š, ๐’—๐’†๐’“๐’š ๐’ƒ๐’๐’š๐’Š๐’”๐’‰ ๐’ˆ๐’Š๐’“๐’๐’”. ๐‘จ๐’๐’… ๐’–๐’”๐’–๐’‚๐’๐’๐’š ๐’—๐’†๐’“๐’š ๐’‡๐’†๐’Ž๐’Š๐’๐’Š๐’๐’† ๐’Ž๐’†๐’."๐Ÿ”ธ 

Dear soulmates, tonight will be a bit sinful, maybe you don't mind.
I found a very old interview for you, which you will definitely like ...
In the part I will share with you today, you can read about the first moments of Brian's meeting with Stefan and also something about sexual attraction, which is always a tempting topic, right?
But in fact, it is an honest confession that will entertain you and at the same time touch your heart.

How about a little survey - do you have the love of your dreams by your side?#
And how would you imagine this night as the night of your fulfilled wishes?
Just go ahead, let your imagination flow, tonight everything is allowed in peace and love!
๐‘ฉ๐’† ๐’Œ๐’Š๐’๐’… ๐’‚๐’๐’… ๐’๐’‘๐’†๐’, ๐’‹๐’–๐’”๐’• ๐’๐’Š๐’Œ๐’† ๐‘ท๐’๐’‚๐’„๐’†๐’ƒ๐’!

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๐Ÿ”ธ๐‘‡โ„Ž๐‘’ ๐‘…๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘’ ๐ด๐‘›๐‘‘ ๐‘…๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘’ ๐‘‚๐‘“ ๐ต๐‘Ÿ๐‘–๐‘Ž๐‘› ๐‘€๐‘œ๐‘™๐‘˜๐‘œ ๐ด๐‘›๐‘‘ ๐‘‡โ„Ž๐‘’ ๐น๐‘™๐‘Ž๐‘š๐‘–๐‘›๐‘” ๐ถ๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘Ž๐‘ก๐‘ข๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘  ๐น๐‘Ÿ๐‘œ๐‘š ๐ฟ๐‘ข๐‘ฅ๐‘’๐‘š๐‘๐‘œ๐‘ข๐‘Ÿ๐‘”๐Ÿ”ธ
๐‘๐‘ฆ ๐‘…๐‘–๐‘โ„Ž๐‘Ž๐‘Ÿ๐‘‘ ๐‘†๐‘š๐‘–๐‘กโ„Ž
/.../ Ah yes, that fabled chance reunion. At some point in rock and roll future they'll put a plaque up in South Kensington tube station. For it was there, in 1993, that Brian accidentally bumped into Stefan. And Placebo -- ace band of the Nineties -- was born.
๐Ÿ”ธStef: "Brian just screamed my name and I turned around..." "It was like, 'That's Stefan Olsdal!' The two of us were like, 'fucking hell -- it can't be.. it is!' It was very uncomfortable. Very weird."
"I was trying to avoid you and talk to the girl you were with -- and I got her number before I actually got yours. It was so quick..."

Stefan had a guitar strapped to his back, so they both got talking about music. Brian asked him to a gig he was playing that week-end and, to his surprise, Stefan came.
๐Ÿ”ธBrian: "And after the gig Stefan came up to me and said 'I really like what you're doing -- let's make some music together and see what happens.' And two people who thought they would have absolutely nothing in common whatsoever found we had a really common bond between us. Because five minutes into our drink, Stefan turns round to me and says, 'I think I'm gay.' And I said, 'That's cool because I'm bisexual.' And then BANG we hit it off like that. Finally we'd find something tangible that we had in common." /.../

It must have been a bit strange for you, Stefan, listening to people ask Brian all these questions about sexuality and staying shtum.
๐Ÿ”ธStef: "I was just trying to find myself in the whole band. It's taken me a while to get comfortable with what I feel and with what I want to say to the world, because I've never felt comfortable talking about myself in public or to friends. I don't know if that comes from my Swedish upbringing.
Swedes in general are quite repressed. I never really felt I wanted to bring attention to myself, either."

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So why and when did you decide to come out?
๐Ÿ”ธStef: "About a year ago. It just felt comfortable then. I don't think I wanted, before that, to put another label on myself -- to be 'the gay bass player'. And I didn't think it was really important. You know, 'just let the music speak for itself'. But then, being gay influences the way you work and they way you are. And I just felt... I guess I felt stronger at that point.
Publicly, I was quite scared. The attention all came quite quick. I wasn't sure I was going to be comfortable defending myself being gay. But I also now feel better about myself if I talk about what I feel. In some ways it's therapy just letting it all out. I can find myself biting my tongue sometimes, but I'd rather now just say it and bring it out into the open.
Instead of just sitting on it and going 'wahuhuhuh' and becoming a nervous wreck."

Are you quite tortured?
๐Ÿ”ธStef : "No, it's just I have quite low self-esteem. 'Cause I didn't really feel I had the right to put my troubles on to anyone else. But I'm finding that that's not the way to do it, really. I'm opening my mouth a bit more. Feels better." /.../
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 When I ask why he came out (with his bisexuality), Brian says:
๐Ÿ”ธ"It just came out. I didn't really think about it. I didn't have any problems or any fears about it. It was just in conversation with Victoria (Segal -- quite good music journalist) for Melody Maker. We were talking about being mistaken for a woman all the time, being treated like a woman by men. And I was saying sometimes when I hang out with girls we get treated very badly by men on the streets and it actually makes me ashamed to be a man. And I just went on to say 'and as someone who is bisexual...' I didn't plan it. It was like saying 'well, I had eggs for breakfast' for me, really. And I guess at the back of my mind I've always wanted people to know."/.../

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Are you always equally attracted to men and women, or do you go through periods when you're straight and ones when you're gay?
๐Ÿ”ธBrian: "When I was younger I used to be a bit more like that. I used to feel more straight for certain months and then just think about boys all the time. But at the moment things are very evenly balanced within me. But my thing is, me and Stefan never get into arguments about boys because we have completely different types. The only thing is that I don't seem to meet very many men that I find attractive. And usually when I meet them and develop crushes on them they're usually straight. So I end up having more relationships with women because I have a tendency to not meet very many men I fancy and when I do, I jump in and go 'I want it and I want you NOW!'
And people have a tendency to shy away from that. Or they give in and then they run away. Isn't that what Boy George used to say -- the most fun is when you get straight boys into bed?"

Are you attracted to the same things in a woman as you are in a man?
๐Ÿ”ธBrian: "No, I'm attracted to women who are very, very boyish. I'm not very big on big mammaries. I have a tendency to be attracted to very, very boyish girls. And usually very feminine men."

And what about you, Stef?
๐Ÿ”ธ"La-ti-no!" Brian barks out helpfully.
๐Ÿ”ธStef: "We could talk about this for a long time -- the narcissistic qualities you look for in someone. You're looking for something that you like in yourself. I like... I don't like effeminate men...
Or men with long hair...
Which rules out both my band members, which is quite a good thing. I still find them sexy but they're just not my types. I just like them a bit more hunkier and chunkier." /.../
(๐บ๐‘Ž๐‘ฆ ๐‘‡๐‘–๐‘š๐‘’๐‘  "๐‘‡โ„Ž๐‘’ ๐‘…๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘’ ๐‘Ž๐‘›๐‘‘ ๐‘…๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘’ ๐‘‚๐‘“ ๐ต๐‘Ÿ๐‘–๐‘Ž๐‘› ๐‘€๐‘œ๐‘™๐‘˜๐‘œ...", ๐ท๐‘’๐‘'98)

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